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By ronnieb
#221886
Why doesn't Tilke provide some provisions for drainage? All of his tracks are pefectly flat. We get stuck watching the cars driving behind the safety car. The rainwater has nowhere to go. It's not going to drain through the pavement. Often it runs in little rivers where the water drains off of hills. Is it too expensive to design a slight crown in the track and provide drainage where water accumulates?
By Hammer278
#221889
This track was crap for draining the water because the asphalt was freshly set in. Normally, older asphalt is rougher and water is able to escape quicker. The problem with this track was its 'newness'. Next year it will be ready.
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By The_Stig_Money
#221906
IMHO it looked better then the Japanese track on qualifing.

By the end of the race the track was looking quite normal for a rainy day

There was to much rain for any track to drain properly

Will Buxton interviewed Tilke and they explained that the track is not like a regular street that has a crest in the middle to alow run of, the track has to be flat
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By myownalias
#221910
I don't think you can directly compare Japan and Korea; the rain was much heavier in Japan and when it did stop the track drained fairly quickly. The Korean track was consistently wet; when the top drivers including Fernando Alonso, who had more to gain than the Red Bull's said that the track conditions were the worst he had driven in!
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By The_Stig_Money
#221912
Korea had a monsoon!!!!

It was bad, but I did not think it was that much worse then other races in the rain, im sticking up for Tilke a little bit.

BTW Alonso complains about everything :D
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By Fred_C_Dobbs
#221918
Why doesn't Tilke provide some provisions for drainage? All of his tracks are pefectly flat. We get stuck watching the cars driving behind the safety car....

Absent the rain, he'd be faced with the horrible truth that there's no actual racing occurring on his racing circuits. Then he pays a Navajo shaman in Tuba City, Az, to do a raindance for him.
#221924
Why doesn't Tilke provide some provisions for drainage? All of his tracks are pefectly flat. We get stuck watching the cars driving behind the safety car....

Absent the rain, he'd be faced with the horrible truth that there's no actual racing occurring on his racing circuits. Then he pays a Navajo shaman in Tuba City, Az, to do a raindance for him.


Or a tornado dance in Austin, although at least there, the travel charges to get there from Arizona would be much much lower.
By Hammer278
#221955
I don't think you can directly compare Japan and Korea; the rain was much heavier in Japan and when it did stop the track drained fairly quickly. The Korean track was consistently wet; when the top drivers including Fernando Alonso, who had more to gain than the Red Bull's said that the track conditions were the worst he had driven in!


I don't recall heavy rain at any point in Korea during the pre race show. It seemed that the track was very wet and at most, a light drizzle. It started raining only just before the race got underway and even then it wasn't some heavy monsoon.

I've seen much worse in Malaysia, Brazil, in Fuji as well but the tracks handled it better. It was shocking to hear all the complaints from the drivers about this track in the wet and the "I have no grip I have no grip", I would atest that to the new track surface. In terms of rain volume, this was chicken feed compared to other track conditions in the past.
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By Robert12010
#221976
Why doesn't Tilke provide some provisions for drainage? All of his tracks are pefectly flat. We get stuck watching the cars driving behind the safety car. The rainwater has nowhere to go. It's not going to drain through the pavement. Often it runs in little rivers where the water drains off of hills. Is it too expensive to design a slight crown in the track and provide drainage where water accumulates?


:hehe: thats true but i think that the circuit and the area given a few years will get better and im glad that we do have a korean gp :)
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By nish2280
#221978
The asphalt was brand new, the chemical treatment it gets when being laid results in it not being very porous. As a result the rain was barely getting dried up.
By Hammer278
#221990
Exactly. You explained it better than me there. :thumbup:
By Jeremy Walker
#222478
Why doesn't Tilke provide some provisions for drainage? All of his tracks are pefectly flat. We get stuck watching the cars driving behind the safety car. The rainwater has nowhere to go. It's not going to drain through the pavement. Often it runs in little rivers where the water drains off of hills. Is it too expensive to design a slight crown in the track and provide drainage where water accumulates?


Tilke has built an amazing track design for Austin that is by no means flat. See image

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By ronnieb
#223177
Why doesn't Tilke provide some provisions for drainage? All of his tracks are pefectly flat. We get stuck watching the cars driving behind the safety car. The rainwater has nowhere to go. It's not going to drain through the pavement. Often it runs in little rivers where the water drains off of hills. Is it too expensive to design a slight crown in the track and provide drainage where water accumulates?


Tilke has built an amazing track design for Austin that is by no means flat. See image

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That looks good! It looks like there are a lot of passing spots.

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