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By texasmr2
#217537
Not really embarrassing considering all the facts. :wink:


And what are they then...?

Well lets see firstly being out of the game for three years, having to adjust to the new cars/regs, being in a car that does not suit his style of driving, not getting to test even the simplest changes and so on. Frankly 99% of the members here only know what they have witnessed simply because of following Hamilton so their perspective is rather optimistic at best imho.

Hey Michael may never achieve the goals so many weigh on his shoulders simply because of what he has achieved. So many say "Oh he should not tarnish his reputation" but isn't it HIS decision and opinion, is he tarnishing anything? I say no as his record stands in testament as too his greatness.

Will he leave sooner rather than later who knows? Yet I for one and many others can be proud to say that we have witnessed his glory days and appreciate the balls it took for him to make a comeback knowing the HUGE hurdle and negative opinions he is atleast willing to take on. So if he does leave after this season atleast I know one of my favorite drivers atleast had the balls to try again :clap: .
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By racechick
#217561
Its like Mark Brundle said, he was never very good at mixing it. Now he has lost the edge, hasnt got the best car, is in no position to insist on a subservient team mate, and he just can't do it. But like a previous poster said I feel a little sad for him, he's just a nothing in the races. I feel embarrased for him when they interview him, he almost looks as though he's shaking. I disliked like him and his tactics but dont like to see him like this.
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By Hexagram
#217566
Not really embarrassing considering all the facts. :wink:


And what are they then...?


Car characteristics and the tyres I think.
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By Hexagram
#217569
Its like Mark Brundle said, he was never very good at mixing it. Now he has lost the edge, hasnt got the best car, is in no position to insist on a subservient team mate, and he just act do it. But like a previous poster said I feel a little sad for him, he's just a nothing in the races. I feel embarrased for him when they interview him, he almost looks as though he's shaking. I disliked like him and his tactics but dont like to see him like this.


I agree with most of what your saying there rc but he looks fine after the races. Fitness doesn't appear to be an issue.

As far as needing the best car goes? Yes and no. His string of 5 championships; yes Ferrari were the best.

But we all remember 98, he can fight for championships with slower machinery. The McLaren that year was light years ahead of the Ferrari yet Michael brought it to the last round.
By HotRod76
#217669
I think Schumacher should step down once and for all. His time has been and gone. It would be nice to see some new talent in F1 I've heard that Valentino Rossi was a possibility, that would be good seeing him go from 2 wheels to 4!
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By racechick
#217701
I think Schumacher should step down once and for all. His time has been and gone. It would be nice to see some new talent in F1 I've heard that Valentino Rossi was a possibility, that would be good seeing him go from 2 wheels to 4!

It wopuld be ace to see him in a ferrari...but he's too old to switch, wont happen, he's fixed on Ducatti.
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By racechick
#217704
Its like Mark Brundle said, he was never very good at mixing it. Now he has lost the edge, hasnt got the best car, is in no position to insist on a subservient team mate, and he just act do it. But like a previous poster said I feel a little sad for him, he's just a nothing in the races. I feel embarrased for him when they interview him, he almost looks as though he's shaking. I disliked like him and his tactics but dont like to see him like this.


I agree with most of what your saying there rc but he looks fine after the races. Fitness doesn't appear to be an issue.

As far as needing the best car goes? Yes and no. His string of 5 championships; yes Ferrari were the best.

But we all remember 98, he can fight for championships with slower machinery. The McLaren that year was light years ahead of the Ferrari yet Michael brought it to the last round.



I dont question his fitness, he's fit. But he looks uncomfortable in post race interviews, thats what I meant by shaking. Its like this current state of things is such a shock to him, it doesnt compute and he looks lost. Though I dont like him I dont like seeing him like that, it looks somehow demeening.
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By Hexagram
#217716
Its like Mark Brundle said, he was never very good at mixing it. Now he has lost the edge, hasnt got the best car, is in no position to insist on a subservient team mate, and he just act do it. But like a previous poster said I feel a little sad for him, he's just a nothing in the races. I feel embarrased for him when they interview him, he almost looks as though he's shaking. I disliked like him and his tactics but dont like to see him like this.


I agree with most of what your saying there rc but he looks fine after the races. Fitness doesn't appear to be an issue.

As far as needing the best car goes? Yes and no. His string of 5 championships; yes Ferrari were the best.

But we all remember 98, he can fight for championships with slower machinery. The McLaren that year was light years ahead of the Ferrari yet Michael brought it to the last round.


I dont question his fitness, he's fit. But he looks uncomfortable in post race interviews, thats what I meant by shaking. Its like this current state of things is such a shock to him, it doesnt compute and he looks lost. Though I dont like him I dont like seeing him like that, it looks somehow demeening.


Gotcha, I agree! That's probably a first. :rofl:
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By racechick
#217730
Its like Mark Brundle said, he was never very good at mixing it. Now he has lost the edge, hasnt got the best car, is in no position to insist on a subservient team mate, and he just act do it. But like a previous poster said I feel a little sad for him, he's just a nothing in the races. I feel embarrased for him when they interview him, he almost looks as though he's shaking. I disliked like him and his tactics but dont like to see him like this.


I agree with most of what your saying there rc but he looks fine after the races. Fitness doesn't appear to be an issue.

As far as needing the best car goes? Yes and no. His string of 5 championships; yes Ferrari were the best.

But we all remember 98, he can fight for championships with slower machinery. The McLaren that year was light years ahead of the Ferrari yet Michael brought it to the last round.


I dont question his fitness, he's fit. But he looks uncomfortable in post race interviews, thats what I meant by shaking. Its like this current state of things is such a shock to him, it doesnt compute and he looks lost. Though I dont like him I dont like seeing him like that, it looks somehow demeening.


Gotcha, I agree! That's probably a first. :rofl:


LOL! yep probably is! :rofl:
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By scotty
#217924
A very good vote of confidence from Brawn today:

Brawn: Schumacher has not faded

Mercedes GP team boss Ross Brawn is adamant that Michael Schumacher's talent has not diminished at all during his lay-off, and that it is only a lack of harmony with this year's tyres that is holding the German legend back.

Schumacher's lack of success so far in his comeback has been one of the biggest stories of the 2010 season. The seven-time champion has been outpaced by his Mercedes team-mate Nico Rosberg and has only finished in the top six on three occasions.

This has led to suggestions that Schumacher's abilities faded in the three years between his original retirement and his return to the track, but Brawn denied that this was the case and thinks the true picture is being masked by the Mercedes' shortcomings and the Bridgestones' quirks.

"If you take the telemetry data in fast corners or his reaction time when the car breaks away, I don't see any difference [to before his retirement]. There he's still the old Michael," Brawn told the official Formula 1 website.

"But in the slow corners he cannot make full use of the tyres as Nico can. Nico has put the bar very high in this respect. But I guess that's okay for Michael as he clearly sees where he has to improve. I predict that in 2011 we will again see the true Michael - when we've delivered him a better car."

He reiterated his belief that it is mainly discomfort with the current front tyre characteristics that is hampering Schumacher.

"Michael's driving style depends on a strong front tyre that can withstand his hard braking and the steering manoeuvres that he prefers," Brawn explained. "Nico has simply understood better how to handle these front tyres.

"I have to say that this year's front tyre is very uncommon. That stems from the fact that the FIA wanted to promote KERS and had asked Bridgestone to develop tyres that would fit a certain weight distribution and thus create a specific tyre characteristic."

But Brawn admitted that if anyone else was underperforming to the extent that Schumacher is this season, they would probably lose their drive.

"To be honest, probably not," Brawn replied when asked if Schumacher would have been retained on the basis of his 2010 form if he did not have such an incredible reputation.

"But because we know Michael, we know that there is still a lot to come because Michael is in many fields more talented than others - in driving and in the cooperation with the team. The team are very happy with the way Michael is contributing.

"If he were a rookie we surely would have asked ourselves if he has the capacity to advance. With Michael we know that he has."

He added that the only difference he could see in Schumacher since his comeback was that the German was handling adversity better.

"He has become more relaxed," said Brawn. "Five years ago he would have found it terribly difficult to handle such a situation.

He's much cooler and much more mature - and that doesn't mean that he is less ambitious or committed. I am really impressed with how calm he stays."
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By Hexagram
#217930
A very good vote of confidence from Brawn today.


Brawn supporting Schumacher this much is not wise.
#217932
Or simply feeling the need to defend or respond. It wouldn't shock me to see both leave as a pair if and when it happens.
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By Hexagram
#217933
Or simply feeling the need to defend or respond. It wouldn't shock me to see both leave as a pair if and when it happens.


Yup. They are on the same boat really.
By vaptin
#217973
Or simply feeling the need to defend or respond. It wouldn't shock me to see both leave as a pair if and when it happens.


Yup. They are on the same boat really.


How? People aren't exactly questioning Ross's abilities.
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