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#217295
am i being a idiot here ? since when was that the racing line ???? hamilton easily had the corner at that speed, you have to remember he was ahead going intro the breaking zone, its webber diving down the inside to try to force hammy wide that caused it.

but still am i wrong? turn 7's racing line isnt the tight inside line.
#217299
am i being a idiot here ? since when was that the racing line ???? hamilton easily had the corner at that speed, you have to remember he was ahead going intro the breaking zone, its webber diving down the inside to try to force hammy wide that caused it.

but still am i wrong? turn 7's racing line isnt the tight inside line.

You are right about the racing line. Still think it's 50/50 for blame, though. Hamilton had to know that Webber wasn't going to just yield and should have taken a wider line for safety. But maybe he thought his McLaren could survive the contact. It's worrying that the Macs are looking a bit fragile when touched. I wonder if they can ditch some ballast in favour of armour-plating? :wink:
#217304
Here it is from three different angles. Its clear Lewis didnt turn in on Webber. Webber was too late on his breaks and he had room there.

[youtube]WgmcO9qLSkc[/youtube]
#217308
Lewey is my numero uno driver, but to me that was just a racing incident. Neither driver was prepared to back-off, whenever that happens *cue deep booming voice* THERE WILLLL BEEE BLOOOD!!!!!!

I wish it was Webbah's blood, but what can you do *shrug*.
#217309
I was okay with it until I saw Red Bull guys jumping up and down and clapping hands because Hamilton was out of the race. I can fully understand when your teammate overtakes someone and you're happy but clapping hands because of one's unluck is unsportsmanship.
#217311
Here it is from three different angles. Its clear Lewis didnt turn in on Webber. Webber was too late on his breaks and he had room there.

[youtube]WgmcO9qLSkc[/youtube]


Give it a rest racechick.
Hamilton just played it like he always does... too aggressive and not thinking of the championship.
He should be thinking of his car 1st but all he did was set himself up for a take out, which Webber dished up for him.
Webber had the preferred line; Hamilton taking a new one in hopes that Webber would back down, which he never does.
It was a bad decision on Hamilton's part and pretty much took him out of the WDC.
No one is to fault here.
Just some stupidity on Hamilton.
#217319
Here it is from three different angles. Its clear Lewis didnt turn in on Webber. Webber was too late on his breaks and he had room there.

[youtube]WgmcO9qLSkc[/youtube]


Give it a rest racechick.
Hamilton just played it like he always does... too aggressive and not thinking of the championship.
He should be thinking of his car 1st but all he did was set himself up for a take out, which Webber dished up for him.
Webber had the preferred line; Hamilton taking a new one in hopes that Webber would back down, which he never does.
It was a bad decision on Hamilton's part and pretty much took him out of the WDC.
No one is to fault here.
Just some stupidity on Hamilton.


Yes silly me. Stupid to overtake in a race.
:rolleyes:
#217324
It was a racing incident, Hamilton hadn't made the pass "stick" going into that corner, so Webber was entitled to go for that inside racing line, Hamilton cut into that line (because he didn't see Vettel) and Webber hadn't planned for that going on and couldn't slow down in time. It wasn't like Massa-Hamilton in Monza, as Massa clearly had track position to choose the line there, Hamilton was only about half a car length ahead of Webber.

Looks like Vettel really is scared of going at Alonso. Don't blame him.

Heh, Hekki seems to like starting fires in Singapore, last year didn't he launch a fire ball at Kimi? Guess he decided to get some fire safety lessons after that :hehe:
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#217326
Hamilton should have left more room in the corner - we saw how it's done later in the race by Kubica. Trying to close the door like that was just asking for trouble.

I think that had the lotus stay out with the fire because having it on track on the huge front straight would have been better than in the pits. I did love seeing Kovalainen do the firefighter routine. And he did a great job putting the fire out too.

The championship is still far from over, and I think it is going to go down to the wire.

The only thing weighing heavily on me (other than a burrito I had Friday night that is still gurgling around) is what happens if Korea isn't ready in time and the race is canceled. That really throws a wrench into the works because all the leading teams need to have good races and a bad one for their rivals.
#217336
If Lewis wins the WDC with 4 dnfs that will truly be something special.


:P There is that way of looking at it. :)
#217345
Here it is from three different angles. Its clear Lewis didnt turn in on Webber. Webber was too late on his breaks and he had room there.

[youtube]WgmcO9qLSkc[/youtube]


Half a car width is enough space for Webber up the inside? Gimme a bloody break. Furthermore, he was maybe only a 1/4 car length max back when Hamilton started turning into the corner, which is totally fair game for him. You can see that, very clearly, at 0:25 in that video. Webber was in Hamilton's blind spot without enough time or space to take realistic evasive action. He was clearly braking more than Hamilton as he lost ground from the moment they started turning to the moment they touched. Hamilton got unlucky, and that is that.
#217346
Great Alonso! :P

It was quite an eventful race, and a very interesting one.
At the front Alonso and Vettel fought for 2 hours trading fastest lap times from start to finish, with Fernando managing superbly to come on top.

Webber-Hamilton;
first.. I think the McLaren got everything wrong with Hamilton and his tyres; at some point his options were just gone and he was lapping more than 2 seconds slower than Alonso and Vettel; they just had to pit him! No idea why they waited for 5-6 laps.
The crash.. When I saw it live, I thought it was Webber's fault for "looking for it". But at the end of the day, Hamilton could have just left a bit more room and he would have walked safe into third.
It's true that Webber could have yielded, but.. they are fighting for a WDC here; they don't want to yield.
So if Hamilton would have been a bit more careful, he would have made his move stick.
That doesn't mean it's Hamilton's fault, though.
As always in a racing incident, both drivers are at fault, but I think it's mainly Webber's fault here.
He could have easily got a drive-through, but the stewards decided it was merely a racing accident, and I think they made the right decision.

Very good comeback from Robert Kubica, who showed what he can really do.
Robust race from Rosberg, too.
#217348
Yes, superb race by Alonso. Vettel was probably faster and during the race I was willing him to make one of his banzai moves and take them both out but that was unworthy of me and I'm now glad he didn't.

Damn but Alonso's a hell of a driver.

It's going to be tight over the next few races, especially if Korea doesn't go ahead!
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