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[spankyham]

No wonder Ferrari have worked themselves from an impossible position to a chance to win the WCC and WDC.

Ferrari in a position to win the WCC??? What are you smoking?

172 potential points and 66 points behind - I'd say that's a chance.

[Denthúl]

Webber should have been penalized.

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Why? I watched a legit move by both drivers which could have gone either way?

Lewis was already a half-car length ahead of Mark. It was time for the Red Bull to pull back a tiny bit. I think he did it on purpose...

watch the replay and you can clearly see that webber didn't have any room and a normal racing driver will not jump on the brakes when his opponent doesen't give him room

His option might have been to go further left, resulting in him bouncing on the kerb and hitting Hamilton even harder. As Martin Brundle said, you can't make a car disappear...

Also, was the damage to Hamilton's car suspension-related? If so, I'd say that came more from the bounce over the kerb on the other side than from contact with Webber's car, which may well be why Webber survived unscathed.

[texasmr2]

Webber should have been penalized.

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Why? I watched a legit move by both drivers which could have gone either way?

Lewis was already a half-car length ahead of Mark. It was time for the Red Bull to pull back a tiny bit. I think he did it on purpose...

Why in Gods name should the car/driver who has the racing line and is fighting for position "pull back"?? Honestly some of the comments and opinions here are simply ludicrous !

[f1ea]

Nothing particularly exciting about Alonso's win, pole to flag in one of the fastest cars.

Great driving, tho. Grand Chelem and holding off Seb at the end.

Alonso is by far my least fav driver out of the big 5 (my motto for the remaining 4 races is Anyone But Alonso), but hats off to him today. Very clean. Didn't erase 2 years ago, but it sure showed his skills/mental fortitude.

Yes I have to agree with that.

Hmmm... at some points the Red Bull was the fastest car. And Alonso was kind to his tires, without lock-ups or anything (unlike Button at monza), which allowed Ferrari yet again to choose their own race strategy.

In Q, the Red Bull was the fastest car, but the drivers kinda choked and/or couldnt get perfect laps.
Alonso had trouble in Q2 and turned it around by remaining calm, and getting that life-line lap in despite the issue.
He then went right behind Lewis on his Q3 run, did a little bit of showing off on their out lap, just to put some pressure on Lewis. On that same lap in Q3... boom! unbeaten pole. That was a masterful Q. Which set the grounds for a solid race, finishing in front of a car that was at times faster and always challenging... i was nail-biting right til the last turn, and even on the final straight there was a bit of a hold-breath instant....

Alonso managed his car and his race pretty well, Ferrari got the pit stop, the strategy and everything despite lots of pressure and the traffic. Solid drive there.

I think it was a great weekend by Alonso. We dont know how Massa would have fared, but he didnt really challenge the RBs in practice, so perhaps he could have gotten a podium or P4... but the win was a very very good race.

Kubica was amazing. He made some beautiful clean moves. That guy is good.

The incident with Webber and Hamilton was pretty weird... Hamilton got by becaus eof the backmarkers, and Webber did the same mistake Lewis made in Monza...... except with opposing results. Must have been really tough on Lewis. Too bad Webber didnt get a penalty though! a couple lost positions for Webber would meant double cash for Alonso...

Alguersuari was not really mentioned... but he managed a very good race despite the little set back he had.

I think from looking at the DNF list you can tell it was a VERY difficult race.

[kerc]

Webber should have been penalized.

.

Why? I watched a legit move by both drivers which could have gone either way?

Lewis was already a half-car length ahead of Mark. It was time for the Red Bull to pull back a tiny bit. I think he did it on purpose...

Why in Gods name should the car/driver who has the racing line and is fighting for position "pull back"?? Honestly some of the comments and opinions here are simply ludicrous !

Really? Funny that David Hobbs, and a bunch of people who really know about this, agree.

But I guess you are the expert.

Teehee.

[scotty]

Webber should have been penalized.

.

Why? I watched a legit move by both drivers which could have gone either way?

Lewis was already a half-car length ahead of Mark. It was time for the Red Bull to pull back a tiny bit. I think he did it on purpose...

Why in Gods name should the car/driver who has the racing line and is fighting for position "pull back"?? Honestly some of the comments and opinions here are simply ludicrous !

Really? Funny that David Hobbs, and a bunch of people who really know about this, agree.

But I guess you are the expert.

Teehee.

Funny that Martin Brundle and others think it was merely a racing incident!

[bud]

No wonder Ferrari have worked themselves from an impossible position to a chance to win the WCC and WDC.

Ferrari in a position to win the WCC??? What are you smoking?

172 potential points and 66 points behind - I'd say that's a chance.

2 drivers with engine question marks for the last 4 races makes you doubt their chances. Added to the fact they back one driver over the other makes their pairing weaker than Redbulls or McLarens.

and on the Hamilton/Webber bingle, it was just a racing incident. Lewis had the line but Webber was still too close to call it his line! Thats racing when you arent the fastest. Its better to be at the front less chance of crashing then. Back to the drawing board Lewis and McLaren. Ferrari have the heads up on you deal with it and overcome it. simple.

[What's Burning?]

Hmmm... at some points the Red Bull was the fastest car. And Alonso was kind to his tires, without lock-ups or anything (unlike Button at monza), which allowed Ferrari yet again to choose their own race strategy.

Say whatever you want, but your fanboy speak is showing. Button at Monza had a busted front wing and a busted rear diffuser (thanks to Alons) and he still couldn't overtake him.

Alonso is a great driver, as much as I dislike his style and personality, I never take a stitch away from his driving ability.

[What's Burning?]

Oh, I forgot to mention... me thinks there's going to be blue smoke coming out of engines tomorrow.

Looks like I completely underestimated things in my prediction... there was yellow fire!

[f1ea]

Webber should have been penalized.

.

Why? I watched a legit move by both drivers which could have gone either way?

Lewis was already a half-car length ahead of Mark. It was time for the Red Bull to pull back a tiny bit. I think he did it on purpose...

watch the replay and you can clearly see that webber didn't have any room and a normal racing driver will not jump on the brakes when his opponent doesen't give him room

Webber didnt brake for Vettel in Turkey, and he didnt brake for Lewis today. Some people that defended Webber then, are blaming him today. How come?

Lewis was ahead... but for some reason he was not in the perfect line. So when he went for it, Webber was there.
In my opinion, i think the same as Turkey: Webber should have humbled down and admitted he got passed. Of course, this aint the cub scouts, so he didnt HAVE to...

Something similar applies to Liuzzi. Even worse! (cause Webber's running for the title) Liuzzi's a major PITA.

[FRAFPDD]

I got mixed views on this one,
on one hand i can see that it was a racing incident clear cut, webber and hamilton almost right with each other going for one space,

on the other hand there is NO WAY the talk about webber cant pull out is true, he was trying not to punt hamilton off but to get round the corner in the same way andperhaps crowd hamiton back behind him by running wide. I think he made a mistake there and Hamilton paidthe price. He punted him in Australia if i remember correctly. So hes far from the perfect article of a driver.

This ^^^^ doesnt bother me at all, what i want to discuss is what everyone thinks for the rest of the season, namely,

Did Mclaens updates close a good gap on the others,
Is ferrari now the best car?
And what teams does everyone think will suit the remaining tracks, i know what the name of this thread is but id still like to put it in the past (which it is) and now focus on what the remaining races have in store, for me, Webbers just won the title.

[What's Burning?]

Webber should have been penalized.

.

Why? I watched a legit move by both drivers which could have gone either way?

Lewis was already a half-car length ahead of Mark. It was time for the Red Bull to pull back a tiny bit. I think he did it on purpose...

Why in Gods name should the car/driver who has the racing line and is fighting for position "pull back"?? Honestly some of the comments and opinions here are simply ludicrous !

Really? Funny that David Hobbs, and a bunch of people who really know about this, agree.

But I guess you are the expert.

Teehee.

Funny that Martin Brundle and others think it was merely a racing incident!

You mean there's disagreement even amongst the experts about it?

I'm ok with the decision today, the stewards made the right call. I'm frankly more inclined to just let racing happen there's little enough passing as it it, you don't want to make drivers afraid to pass.

That being said, there's been some CLEAR incidents this year that have also had experts disagreeing but were easy to see for me, so I'd much rather leave the "who's at fault call" to the drivers themselves.

The one fact I'd like to see enforced though is: can the pass be made

Using that criteria, it's much clearer when a penalty should be handed out, and if the answer is no the driver shouldn't even have attempted the pass in that incident, then it makes for a much easier call.

[racechick]

This gp proved me that there are enjoyable battles other than battles of the best.I mostly enjoyed Kubica's and Hülkenberg's battles and of course when Webber tried to overtake Hamilton but it failed.At the first sight i thought that it was Webber's fault,not because i am a Lewis fan, but then i noticed that it wasnt.

When did Webber try and overtake Hamilton.

Racechick???

????????

[scotty]

You mean there's disagreement even amongst the experts about it?

That is one part of the point i was trying to make there, i guess. The other part was that merely namedropping doesn't really make for a convincing argument.

[Robert12010]

im a lewis fan but i dont belive it was mark's fault, it was just bad luck of lewis's part.....