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Give me JPM over JV every time!! Loved him to bits! he was a racer.! JV did nothing for me.
I have to agree with you.
me, too.
RC; how can you say that Villeneuve has never been very good; he claimed the 1997 world drivers title; it seems like an odd statement to say a former world champion has never been very good! And frankly after leaving Williams for BAR in '99; he never had a podium challenging car! As for his current ability to drive in F1; who knows? he hasn't been in a race seat since mid 2006. I wouldn't mind have JV back in F1; Juan Pablo Montoya annoyed me much more than JV ever did; Villeneuve had the talent but can he do it with the current F1 standards; much like Michael Schumacher is struggling!
Give me JPM over JV every time!! Loved him to bits! he was a racer.! JV did nothing for me.
I think that JV is a much better driver than JPM; Montoya only managed seven race victories in five & half seasons. Villeneuve won 11 races in his first two seasons; then Williams dropped off the pace completely and he joined the useless British American Racing and never stood on the top step again! As for Hill being better than JV; I wouldn't say that was true either; Villeneuve was leading Hill on his debut in Melbourne but was ordered by Sir Frank to allow Hill to pass; Hill was given the full support of the Williams team that year as the established driver finishing second to Schumacher the previous two years. In 1997; Villeneuve claimed seven race victories out of 17 to secure the world title! The figures seem to speak for themselves; Montoya talked a big game but never really delivered in my opinion!
And somehow this has turned into a JPM vs JV thread!!!
I think that JV is a much better driver than JPM; Montoya only managed seven race victories in five & half seasons. Villeneuve won 11 races in his first two seasons; then Williams dropped off the pace completely and he joined the useless British American Racing and never stood on the top step again! As for Hill being better than JV; I wouldn't say that was true either; Villeneuve was leading Hill on his debut in Melbourne but was ordered by Sir Frank to allow Hill to pass; Hill was given the full support of the Williams team that year as the established driver finishing second to Schumacher the previous two years. In 1997; Villeneuve claimed seven race victories out of 17 to secure the world title! The figures seem to speak for themselves; Montoya talked a big game but never really delivered in my opinion!
And somehow this has turned into a JPM vs JV thread!!!
Villeneuve's (and Hill's, actually) Williams in 1996 and 1997 was a spaceship compared to the rest of the field; that's why JV became World Champion and won 11 races.
I think that JV is a much better driver than JPM; Montoya only managed seven race victories in five & half seasons. Villeneuve won 11 races in his first two seasons; then Williams dropped off the pace completely and he joined the useless British American Racing and never stood on the top step again! As for Hill being better than JV; I wouldn't say that was true either; Villeneuve was leading Hill on his debut in Melbourne but was ordered by Sir Frank to allow Hill to pass; Hill was given the full support of the Williams team that year as the established driver finishing second to Schumacher the previous two years. In 1997; Villeneuve claimed seven race victories out of 17 to secure the world title! The figures seem to speak for themselves; Montoya talked a big game but never really delivered in my opinion!
And somehow this has turned into a JPM vs JV thread!!!
Villeneuve's (and Hill's, actually) Williams in 1996 and 1997 was a spaceship compared to the rest of the field; that's why JV became World Champion and won 11 races.
Yes; but you could argue the point with Ferrari's dominance in the '00s, is Schumacher that great or was it all the car?
RC; how can you say that Villeneuve has never been very good; he claimed the 1997 world drivers title; it seems like an odd statement to say a former world champion has never been very good! And frankly after leaving Williams for BAR in '99; he never had a podium challenging car! As for his current ability to drive in F1; who knows? he hasn't been in a race seat since mid 2006. I wouldn't mind have JV back in F1; Juan Pablo Montoya annoyed me much more than JV ever did; Villeneuve had the talent but can he do it with the current F1 standards; much like Michael Schumacher is struggling!
Give me JPM over JV every time!! Loved him to bits! he was a racer.! JV did nothing for me.
Then why are you so keen on Villeneuve Mk. II?
-Dons flame-proof clothing-
I think that JV is a much better driver than JPM; Montoya only managed seven race victories in five & half seasons. Villeneuve won 11 races in his first two seasons; then Williams dropped off the pace completely and he joined the useless British American Racing and never stood on the top step again! As for Hill being better than JV; I wouldn't say that was true either; Villeneuve was leading Hill on his debut in Melbourne but was ordered by Sir Frank to allow Hill to pass; Hill was given the full support of the Williams team that year as the established driver finishing second to Schumacher the previous two years. In 1997; Villeneuve claimed seven race victories out of 17 to secure the world title! The figures seem to speak for themselves; Montoya talked a big game but never really delivered in my opinion!
And somehow this has turned into a JPM vs JV thread!!!
Villeneuve's (and Hill's, actually) Williams in 1996 and 1997 was a spaceship compared to the rest of the field; that's why JV became World Champion and won 11 races.
Yes; but you could argue the point with Ferrari's dominance in the '00s, is Schumacher that great or was it all the car?
Well, when a driver dominates in the same car for 7 years it can't really be just the car, can it?
Otherwise Barrichello would have won a couple of WDC, too
And you can just watch Spain '96 and races like that to remember yourself Schumi really was great. But surely it was the car, too. But not in 2003 and 2005, though.
I think that JV is a much better driver than JPM; Montoya only managed seven race victories in five & half seasons. Villeneuve won 11 races in his first two seasons; then Williams dropped off the pace completely and he joined the useless British American Racing and never stood on the top step again! As for Hill being better than JV; I wouldn't say that was true either; Villeneuve was leading Hill on his debut in Melbourne but was ordered by Sir Frank to allow Hill to pass; Hill was given the full support of the Williams team that year as the established driver finishing second to Schumacher the previous two years. In 1997; Villeneuve claimed seven race victories out of 17 to secure the world title! The figures seem to speak for themselves; Montoya talked a big game but never really delivered in my opinion!
And somehow this has turned into a JPM vs JV thread!!!
Villeneuve's (and Hill's, actually) Williams in 1996 and 1997 was a spaceship compared to the rest of the field; that's why JV became World Champion and won 11 races.
Yes; but you could argue the point with Ferrari's dominance in the '00s, is Schumacher that great or was it all the car?
Well, when a driver dominates in the same car for 7 years it can't really be just the car, can it?
Otherwise Barrichello would have won a couple of WDC, too
And you can just watch Spain '96 and races like that to remember yourself Schumi really was great. But surely it was the car, too. But not in 2003 and 2005, though.
Well you know, car, lack,of competition, team mate in chains, you get the picture
Barrichello didn't stand a chance of beating Schumacher in a WDC, anyway.
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