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[The Immortal Dragon]

Thank for the Poll, it was a good afterthought.

[Jabberwocky]

I think the hulk has disappointed me the most.

[What's Burning?]

I think the hulk has disappointed me the most.

Maybe your expectations we too high? I think he's done just fine but it's a cut throat environment where even Jaime Alguersuari is still a rookie and we kind of sort of consider him a driver that's been around the block... now one full lap around the block.

[Jabberwocky]

you might be right, the lack of testing is going to be hurting them

[The Immortal Dragon]

I think the hulk has disappointed me the most.

Same.
I was expecting quite a lot from him, I really liked him when he was in GP2.

But F1 is a difficult business and I hope he'll improve with time.

[Jensonb]

Kamui's not really a rookie and the Sauber's a lot better then de la Rosa makes it look. Karun Chandhok is the guy whose impressed me the most out of this lot. Very consistent withat HRT, and a very mature, likable driver. Replacing him with Yamamoto is a bit like replacing Button with Sato.

[Amanda]

Kamui's not really a rookie and the Sauber's a lot better then de la Rosa makes it look. Karun Chandhok is the guy whose impressed me the most out of this lot. Very consistent withat HRT, and a very mature, likable driver. Replacing him with Yamamoto is a bit like replacing Button with Sato.

Why is Kobayashi not a rookie? It's his first full season in F1.

[Jensonb]

Kamui's not really a rookie and the Sauber's a lot better then de la Rosa makes it look. Karun Chandhok is the guy whose impressed me the most out of this lot. Very consistent withat HRT, and a very mature, likable driver. Replacing him with Yamamoto is a bit like replacing Button with Sato.

Why is Kobayashi not a rookie? It's his first full season in F1.

You answered your own question.

But to clarify I said he's not really a rookie, not he's absolutely not a rookie. I'm just saying he had a headstart.

Edit: i should say, the same applies to an even greater extent to Alguersuari, but he's rubbish anyway.

[Amanda]

Kamui's not really a rookie and the Sauber's a lot better then de la Rosa makes it look. Karun Chandhok is the guy whose impressed me the most out of this lot. Very consistent withat HRT, and a very mature, likable driver. Replacing him with Yamamoto is a bit like replacing Button with Sato.

Why is Kobayashi not a rookie? It's his first full season in F1.

You answered your own question.

He only had two races, he's practically a rookie.

[Jensonb]

Kamui's not really a rookie and the Sauber's a lot better then de la Rosa makes it look. Karun Chandhok is the guy whose impressed me the most out of this lot. Very consistent withat HRT, and a very mature, likable driver. Replacing him with Yamamoto is a bit like replacing Button with Sato.

Why is Kobayashi not a rookie? It's his first full season in F1.

You answered your own question.

He only had two races, he's practically a rookie.

Like I said, he still had a headstart on the rest. Equally, Jaime had a headstart on him and Jaime is clearly not as good as Kamui. I'm not suggesting they be removed from the list, I'm explaining my thought process on judging them.

[What's Burning?]

In sports, the definition of a rookie is a first year player and the label carries over to the next year season if the player (driver in this case) did not participate in a substantial percentage of that yet.

Kamui Kobayashi is a rookie.

[Jensonb]

In sports, the definition of a rookie is a first year player and the label carries over to the next year season if the player (driver in this case) did not participate in a substantial percentage of that yet.

Kamui Kobayashi is a rookie.

Which would be a really useful piece of input if I hadn't already said I didn't think they should be removed from the list and was just clarifying why I was less impressed.

[What's Burning?]

In sports, the definition of a rookie is a first year player and the label carries over to the next year season if the player (driver in this case) did not participate in a substantial percentage of that yet.

Kamui Kobayashi is a rookie.

Which would be a really useful piece of input if I hadn't already said I didn't think they should be removed from the list and was just clarifying why I was less impressed.

You'd make good politician. You devoted a whole post saying why you felt he wasn't "really" a rookie. You're allowed your own opinion on why Chandhok gets your vote, but you're not allowed your own facts as to why Kobayashi is not really a rookie.

[vaptin]

*Makes mental note to come back and vote and the end of the season.

[Bubbie]

It's gotta be Kobayashi. The guy has some talent. In the last year we have seen..

- Went toe-to-toe with Button late last season
- Pass Alonso and Buemi in quick succession at Valencia (good strategy to go in late for tires)
- Went from 23rd to 9th in Hungary
- My memory is a little foggy on this one, But I think he also battled against Schumi and won out a few times

I would love to see him in a better car.