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[f1ea]

I too dominate and do it with excruciating slowness

Now all you need is Max mosley's number

Lewis can forget about what Jenson is up to and just focus on scoring as many points as possible while keeping the Redbulls behind him.

Once this GP rolls off and we go back to high down force tracks, Jenson will go back to being his rear gunner anyway, but the Redbulls will wake up once again, which is the prime concern at this stage of the season.

Jenson again made no mistakes, despite being put under signifficant pressure and with his car a touch slower. He did put a couple tires out and some little locking action, but not any real mistakes. And this track was all about raw pace, and he drove aggressively.

The man just makes no mistakes. It still puzzles me... but in the end he's still paying the price (pts-wise) for mistakes others have made for him...

Maybe Lewis will still beat him (depends on the Q stuff)... but a rear gunner?? his arse kicked?? Lucky?? ??
FAR FROM.

[Hammer278]

I haven't seen Lewis making mistakes while put under pressure from behind either. Lewis' and Jensons' stance was very different in this race and you know that.

Both styles have pros and cons. We saw Lewis "go for it" style paying the price today. If it was Jenson, he would've "Held Station" and finished the race in 4th, 5th, whatever. But he won't be getting results which Lewis gets at most times when the car doesn't deserve it. It's more risky and more exciting as well. This race was a borefest, as soon as Jenson and Alonso went wheel to wheel after the pitstops you knew Mr Hold Station didn't stand a chance. I was rooting for Jenson and I can't stand Alonso but he's a tough guy to go racing with.

[f1ea]

I haven't seen Lewis making mistakes while put under pressure from behind either. Lewis' and Jensons' stance was very different in this race and you know that.

Both styles have pros and cons. We saw Lewis "go for it" style paying the price today. If it was Jenson, he would've "Held Station" and finished the race in 4th, 5th, whatever. But he won't be getting results which Lewis gets at most times when the car doesn't deserve it. It's more risky and more exciting as well. This race was a borefest, as soon as Jenson and Alonso went wheel to wheel after the pitstops you knew Mr Hold Station didn't stand a chance. I was rooting for Jenson and I can't stand Alonso but he's a tough guy to go racing with.

For one... Jenson has started many more times in the same (and worse) situation Lewis was in today. And still his mistake tally adds up to.......... 0.

For 2... Jenson has climbed considerable positions in several races to recover from these positions... so "hold station" is a very loose term.

For 3... the championship pts tell a good story....... and 5 races to go.

For 4... Borefest?! If anything it proved both of the leaders were on their game. Think what you want... but it was obvious they were not going to make mistakes, so they had to win the race on their own merit. Had it been any of the other contenders, i'm sure there would have been a bit more "excitement" for the looney tunes brigade

[Hammer278]

I haven't seen Lewis making mistakes while put under pressure from behind either. Lewis' and Jensons' stance was very different in this race and you know that.

Both styles have pros and cons. We saw Lewis "go for it" style paying the price today. If it was Jenson, he would've "Held Station" and finished the race in 4th, 5th, whatever. But he won't be getting results which Lewis gets at most times when the car doesn't deserve it. It's more risky and more exciting as well. This race was a borefest, as soon as Jenson and Alonso went wheel to wheel after the pitstops you knew Mr Hold Station didn't stand a chance. I was rooting for Jenson and I can't stand Alonso but he's a tough guy to go racing with.

For one... Jenson has started many more times in the same (and worse) situation Lewis was in today. And still his mistake tally adds up to.......... 0.

True...hence Mr Hold Station.

For 2... Jenson has climbed considerable positions in several races to recover from these positions... so "hold station" is a very loose term.

Thanks to others misfortunes, McLaren pace during pitstops to beat the non-Redbull/Ferrari/other McLaren, while being Mr Hold Station.

For 3... the championship pts tell a good story....... and 5 races to go.

It certainly does, Lewis has 3 DNFs and is still ahead of Jenson by a good margin.

For 4... Borefest?! If anything it proved both of the leaders were on their game. Think what you want... but it was obvious they were not going to make mistakes, so they had to win the race on their own merit. Had it been any of the other
contenders, i'm sure there would have been a bit more "excitement" for the looney tunes brigade

I just saw the Top 3 going around in circles and I was telling my mates from the start that Alonso is winning the race. I'm not trying to brag, there's nothing to brag about as it was quite predictable. The Ferrari was on it, and Mr Hold Station can't hold a candle to a racer like Alonso. I'm dissapointed my prediction came true, I would've much preferred Jenson to win it.

[scotty]

Mr Hold Station? That's the dumbest attempt at a piss take i ever heard, especially having actually watched this season's racing and seen Button progress up the field on race day more often than not.

[kerc]

Whoever disses Jenson is clearly a blinded fool. He's been a class act since the start of the season, both on and off the track.

Good grief, McLaren has maybe one of the coolest teams in the history of F1 right now, and people here are debating who's the best of them? Shut up and watch the racing.

[darwin dali]

I too dominate and do it with excruciating slowness

Now all you need is Max mosley's number

Got it on speed dial

[myownalias]

I too dominate and do it with excruciating slowness

Now all you need is Max mosley's number

Got it on speed dial

555-NAZI-umpalumpa...

[darwin dali]

I too dominate and do it with excruciating slowness

Now all you need is Max mosley's number

Got it on speed dial

555-NAZI-umpalumpa...

That's his business no.
Here's his private cell: 555-DUMB-bottom

[Hammer278]

Whoever disses Jenson is clearly a blinded fool. He's been a class act since the start of the season, both on and off the track.

Good grief, McLaren has maybe one of the coolest teams in the history of F1 right now, and people here are debating who's the best of them? Shut up and watch the racing.

Whats so wrong in comparing 2 very very good drivers to see who's better? Surely smarter than comparing one idiot driver and one amazing driver, wouldn't you say?

And I'm sorry about posts right after the race. Was too hard on Jenson, I was rooting for him the whole race. I kept thinking he'll lose it to Alonso and deep inside that tiny hope remained he'd win, but he didn't. Which just cheesed me of. But he drove a great race, the Ferrari simply had the little extra pace.

[manmonkee]

I think it's just too hard to compare the 2, you can over annylize, compare DNF's mistakes, what not, but there chalk and cheese, Jenson is slightly behind Lewis and there are lots of reasons and at the end of the day they all probably cancel each other out, BUT! and it's a big hoochie But, if all the people who say Jensons the worst F1 driver since Johnny McBad-Driver it can't say much for Lewis ( A great Driver) as Jensons just behind on points.

[myownalias]

Anyone that says Jenson Button is the worse driver since blah, blah, blah... are frankly ignorance fools, you don't win world championships by being the worst driver, even in a good car; a bad driver can end up bringing up the rear, just look at Luca Badoer last year, he finished every race he competed in stone last. Jenson and Lewis are equally matched, very different drivers but over the course of a season they are pretty much on a level with each other. Jenson had the better start to the season, Lewis has had a better mid season and now going into the home stretch it seems that Jenson is coming to the fore again, I wouldn't like to call it between the two drivers!

[vaptin]

Hey, Badoer wasn't as bad as he looked in his little stand in. Might be better to say look at Hekki.

[Bulletproof]

Haven't posted in here for a while, better to stay out of the bickering. However, thought I'd just make two points taday.

One, If the Mclaren boys in the pit had been as fast as the Ferrari boys then Jenson would have stayed ahead. The driving of BOTH drivers was exquisite through that first 40 odd laps.

Two, Martin Brundle says this in his post race blog about Lewis, "He had been outsmarted and outperformed ( in quali), and he took that frustration to the grid and into the first lap"

[Jensonb]

Hey, Badoer wasn't as bad as he looked in his little stand in.

What makes you say that? His performance was dire. I mean, fair enough he didn't have much real-world experience with that car or recent F1 racing experience, but he was plum last in the same car Kimi won in and then Fisi did a much more competent job filling the seat for the rest of the season. Again, some of that can be attributed to Fisi having more recent F1 experience, but then he did have to get used to the Ferrari way of doing things.