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By Flux
#214899
How did Hulkenburg not even get investigated for cutting the chicanes? The last one was blatant. :yikes:


he did didnt he ? he just wasnt found to gain anytime even tho technicaly he didnt loose a place wich is a stupid rule.
#214902
Easy solution would be to put tyre walls where the 'humps' are. Then we'll see the drivers respecting the braking points a lot more.
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By Herbs
#214903
How did Hulkenburg not even get investigated for cutting the chicanes? The last one was blatant. :yikes:


he did didnt he ? he just wasnt found to gain anytime even tho technicaly he didnt loose a place wich is a stupid rule.


My understanding was that the stewards dismissed it right away. Kinda defeats the purpose of marking the track out properly. Justice was served in the end though.
By FJuan
#214905
I'm a bit suspicious about the strange bit in the race where Vettel had a "problem" and let Webber past.
The problem then quickly disappeared. I don't suspect team orders. Rather the opposite.

I think Vettel's long run strategy was planned before the race.

Webber would have been waiting for those in front of him to pit before he pitted in hope of leapfrogging them.
If Vettel was in front, then Webber would have waited for him to pit first.
However by letting Webber past then Vettel could run long (til the last lap???) jumping 2 positions and have the last laugh, as he did.

I think this was a premeditated strategy by part of the Red Bull team that favoured Vettel.
#214907
I'm a bit suspicious about the strange bit in the race where Vettel had a "problem" and let Webber past.
The problem then quickly disappeared. I don't suspect team orders. Rather the opposite.

I think Vettel's long run strategy was planned before the race.

Webber would have been waiting for those in front of him to pit before he pitted in hope of leapfrogging them.
If Vettel was in front, then Webber would have waited for him to pit first.
However by letting Webber past then Vettel could run long (til the last lap???) jumping 2 positions and have the last laugh, as he did.

I think this was a premeditated strategy by part of the Red Bull team that favoured Vettel.


Good post. I had the exact thought in mind as soon as Vettel only went into the pits on the penultimate lap. The way it dovetailed with their strategy and how it worked out in the end was too perfect. :hehe:
#214923
Easy solution would be to put tyre walls where the 'humps' are. Then we'll see the drivers respecting the braking points a lot more.


Ehhh no. That was exactly what they were thinking in 1996. Check the Monza race that year! :-/ Took Damon Hill out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ4aCk8iOUM

Left Alesi in the lead though, who before started from 6th, only to be 1st at the first chicane, but then lost 1st again to Hill :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYzv5xuJhFw and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdm9917eNDA

For me that was the most impressive start ever in F1.
#214930
Five races remaining and the five top drivers are covered by the span of a single first place finish.
#214939
How in Hades did Vettel manage 52 laps on soft compound tyres? (and with a dying engine)
#214941
I'm a bit suspicious about the strange bit in the race where Vettel had a "problem" and let Webber past.
The problem then quickly disappeared. I don't suspect team orders. Rather the opposite.

I think Vettel's long run strategy was planned before the race.

Webber would have been waiting for those in front of him to pit before he pitted in hope of leapfrogging them.
If Vettel was in front, then Webber would have waited for him to pit first.
However by letting Webber past then Vettel could run long (til the last lap???) jumping 2 positions and have the last laugh, as he did.

I think this was a premeditated strategy by part of the Red Bull team that favoured Vettel.

Oh, come on..
If only Webber would have passed Hulkenberg, he would have finished ahead of Vettel! Or if Hulk were handed a penalty!
Vettel had a problem; it is absolutely normal and quite likely, given the reliability of Red Bull.

Anyway, good race; well done to Alonso and Button, who did an amazing job today. They were simply a step ahead of everybody else.
Alonso managed to pick a very important win - at Monza at the first Italian GP for Ferrari. His reputation as a Ferrari driver will grow considerably after today :)

Hamilton made a quite avoidable mistake, as I am sure he knows.
I think he was trying too hard to make up for the ground lost in qualy. He was a just a bit too aggressive.

5 races to end.. this is getting more and more exciting! :P
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By Flux
#214944
How in Hades did Vettel manage 52 laps on soft compound tyres? (and with a dying engine)


without a dying engine for starters.

christian horner said in post race interviews that it was either a tear off in the airbox or the more likley that the breaks had fused and then free'd up.
#214952
How in Hades did Vettel manage 52 laps on soft compound tyres? (and with a dying engine)


without a dying engine for starters.

christian horner said in post race interviews that it was either a tear off in the airbox or the more likley that the breaks had fused and then free'd up.

If that were the case, the telemetry would have shown a drop in exhaust temperatures. Once the condition passed, Guillaume should have assured Vettel his engine was once again normal. That Guillaume neither confirmed the problem nor assured Vettel it had passed gives me to believe it was a feint to let Webber past in accordance with Vettel's pit straggity.
#214957
That had script written all over it. Immediately after Webber passes him, Vettle goes on and puts up his fastest lap of the race. Engine trouble like that should happen more often. :D
#214958
That had script written all over it. Immediately after Webber passes him, Vettle goes on and puts up his fastest lap of the race. Engine trouble like that should happen more often. :D


I thought it was rigged when it first happened-that they'd switched allegience to Webber because he was in a stronger position, but that didnt add up when Vettel did his staying out strategy. But this new way of looking at it, that it was all a way to get Vettel higher, I'd not thought of that. It seems a little far fetched but why was Webber so downbeat after the race? The looked livid when he was interviewed and actually todays result was ace for him.
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