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what if you're just arguing for the sake of arguing when a layman knows it was Marks wing they took, a wing that he did actually use in practice that they put on Vettels car after he broke his own wing. SIMPLE FOR GODS SAKE
So according to your reasoning McLaren would favor Hamilton. Its as simple as that. But you would call that favoritism? And why is that? BECAUSE YOU HAVE AN IRRATIONAL HATRED FOR VETTEL.
Heres the facts.
In 2009 Hamilton, at the german gp, was given the upgrade that they brought to the gp. It wasnt like Heikki was out of the championship mathematically and Heikki, i must say, after leaving McLaren did admit that he had not even been asked about the upgrades before they were given to Lewis.
"But they are being so cruel to Heikki, its like he isnt a part of the team" is not something i would have heard you say.
Well, to be fair, the two situations are different, because Lewis was given the upgrades as there was only one set at the time, whereas both Webber and Vettel got one of the new front wings but Vettel's broke so instead of having him run with the old one, Horner ordered that Webber's be removed and given to Vettel. The act of physically taking the upgrade away is what makes it cruel. Plus, McLaren were arguably more justified because Heikki never looked anything but ordinary in the sister McLaren, whereas Lewis was a proven winner - in stark contrast, there was very little to choose between Mark and Sebastian.
Clearly McLaren did favour Lewis, but it was technically justified. It would, however, have come across better if they and their fans had not been so defensive about it, but I guess they didn't want to hurt Heikki mentally by explaining "well, he's just not that good". Whereas Red Bull preach equality, but you'd have to be blind not to see their favouritism for Vettel and an idiot not to work out that there was no way he wasn't going to be the favoured son - even though in terms of talent, Webber is worth about 3 or 4 Vettels most of the time.
Well first of all Adrian Newey made the call for the wings to be changed. Second of all Heikki is also a proven winner, it may not be of a WDC but he is a proven winner. When they took the wing off Webber it was to put it on a car of someone who they thought would do a better job with it. Red Bull do preach equality, and it was clearly seen when Vettel was trying to overtake Webber! Did we hear Webber being told to ease of and let Vettel go past as we see with Ferrari? Yes after the incident, in a teams point of view, if Webber didnt make it hard (but legal) for Vettel to get past they would have had a whole lot of points in the bag which is clearly why Christian first blamed Webber, but the main point is that he took back the comment and said it was a 50/50 situation, which it was.
And please, as i have just said, favoritism is not a point that a McLaren fan can argue on as it is evident in McLaren itself.
Well first of all Adrian Newey made the call for the wings to be changed.
Second of all Heikki is also a proven winner, it may not be of a WDC but he is a proven winner. When they took the wing off Webber it was to put it on a car of someone who they thought would do a better job with it. Red Bull do preach equality, and it was clearly seen when Vettel was trying to overtake Webber! Did we hear Webber being told to ease of and let Vettel go past as we see with Ferrari? Yes after the incident, in a teams point of view, if Webber didnt make it hard (but legal) for Vettel to get past they would have had a whole lot of points in the bag which is clearly why Christian first blamed Webber, but the main point is that he took back the comment and said it was a 50/50 situation, which it was.
And please, as i have just said, favoritism is not a point that a McLaren fan can argue on as it is evident in McLaren itself.
So according to your reasoning McLaren would favor Hamilton. Its as simple as that. But you would call that favoritism? And why is that? BECAUSE YOU HAVE AN IRRATIONAL HATRED FOR VETTEL.
Heres the facts.
In 2009 Hamilton, at the german gp, was given the upgrade that they brought to the gp. It wasnt like Heikki was out of the championship mathematically and Heikki, i must say, after leaving McLaren did admit that he had not even been asked about the upgrades before they were given to Lewis.
"But they are being so cruel to Heikki, its like he isnt a part of the team" is not something i would have heard you say.
And 1st picture seems to be so sincere but yeah,it is fake feelingsAs an after thought I should of named this topic Webber vs Vettel...
how can i have an irrational hatred for someone i havent met in my life?
Webber is clearly better than Vettel
so taking a part in his car and giving it to Vettel who broke his car's part(he is given an award where he should be admonished) is so ridiculous.
To talk about the crash,it was 100% Vettel's fault.If it was Webber who caused the crash,i'd still say the same thing.Vettel.I watched the crash again and it was Vettel who lost the control-or drive it on Webber.There was enogh place for him to overtake he didnt need to drive it so close to Webber.
I dont support them.I find them quite annoying.They are babying their dear Vettel and being unfair.But i appreciate their success.Its not an old team but very successful.I support Mark Webber because i think he deserves to be on top.
Actually.I dont support a team but my favorite is McLaren.
GO MCLAREN!
Webber is clearly better than Vettel
so taking a part in his car and giving it to Vettel who broke his car's part(he is given an award where he should be admonished) is so ridiculous.
He didn't broke his car's part.
The new front wing *failed*. It's very different.
To talk about the crash,it was 100% Vettel's fault.If it was Webber who caused the crash,i'd still say the same thing.Vettel.I watched the crash again and it was Vettel who lost the control-or drive it on Webber.There was enogh place for him to overtake he didnt need to drive it so close to Webber.
Webber left him just the width of a car to get past; it's enough space, I guess. But they are also team-mates; for the interest of the team he should have closed slightly less than he did.
(But we talked about this crash far too much!)
I dont support them.I find them quite annoying.They are babying their dear Vettel and being unfair.But i appreciate their success.Its not an old team but very successful.I support Mark Webber because i think he deserves to be on top.
Actually.I dont support a team but my favorite is McLaren.
GO MCLAREN!
watch out red bull, Mclaren are coming for ya!!!!!!!
Webber is clearly better than Vettel
Are you sure?
I would say right now they are pretty much levelled.
When you look at the statistics you can clearly see Webber is better
so taking a part in his car and giving it to Vettel who broke his car's part(he is given an award where he should be admonished) is so ridiculous.
He didn't broke his car's part.
The new front wing *failed*. It's very different.
I thought it was a part in car.I mean the wing.
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