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[What's Burning?]

There are probably a bunch of ways to get this done but one of the possibilities is simply a moving ballast that would swing out during high G turns and weigh the wing endplates down and swing back inboard during a low G turn when it's not needed.

One of the things I notice is that one tip is generally lower than the other side, this may be completely wrong but I'm sure in a brain storming session, you can come up with half a dozen workable ways to implement something. Like all of the ways the f-duct that have surfaced, some more elegant than others I'm sure some more efficient than others, but it's easier to create something once you know the end point.

So the Red Bull engineer that came up with it deserves a bonus.

So does the spy that took the idea and sold it to Ferrari.

[darwin dali]

I still think it's pure material science at play, i.e., some carbon weaved differently, etc.

[What's Burning?]

I agree, good design works like nature, keep it simple. Just saying there's lots of ways to skin a cat.

[darwin dali]

I agree, good design works like nature, keep it simple. Just saying there's lots of ways to skin a cat.

Skin a cat You evil man!

[smokin]

There are probably a bunch of ways to get this done but one of the possibilities is simply a moving ballast that would swing out during high G turns and weigh the wing endplates down and swing back inboard during a low G turn when it's not needed.

One of the things I notice is that one tip is generally lower than the other side, this may be completely wrong but I'm sure in a brain storming session, you can come up with half a dozen workable ways to implement something. Like all of the ways the f-duct that have surfaced, some more elegant than others I'm sure some more efficient than others, but it's easier to create something once you know the end point.

So the Red Bull engineer that came up with it deserves a bonus.

So does the spy that took the idea and sold it to Ferrari.

It would need to be a huge weight to yield the amount of deflection seen in the photos but I like your thinking.

[What's Burning?]

I agree, good design works like nature, keep it simple. Just saying there's lots of ways to skin a cat.

Skin a cat You evil man!

OH dear... did I say cat? I meant zucchini.

[Frosty]

I think the FIA's decision was an excellent course of action to take seems fair without changing the rules as the wing are supposed to have a linear flex.

[What's Burning?]

ESPN reports... looks like we'll be seeing a lot less flexing in Spa.

Stricter flexi wing tests for Spa

The FIA is set to ramp up its front wing flexibility tests amid the current controversy about the Red Bull and Ferrari cars.

After McLaren and Mercedes requested a clarification about the legality of their rivals' cars, the FIA tested the wings and the floors prior to the Hungarian Grand Prix and - as at Hockenheim a week ago - were cleared to race. But it emerged earlier on Sunday that Charlie Whiting was open to the idea of devising new flexibility tests, given the visible extent of the flexing wings.

Reports now indicate that the teams were told late on Sunday that stricter tests will be in place for the next race in Belgium. Article 3.17.8 of the technical regulations gives the FIA "the right to introduce further ... tests on any part of the bodywork which appears to be (or is suspected of) moving whilst the car is in motion".

It is believed the current front wing tests involve placing 50kg weights on the endplates, with a maximum 10mm in allowable flexibility. While the Red Bull and Ferrari wings satisfy these tests, Article 3.15 of the technical rules says bodywork "must be rigidly secured to the entirely sprung part of the car" and "must remain immobile in relation to the sprung part of the car". The rule adds that any "construction that is designed to bridge the gap between the sprung part of the car and the ground is prohibited under all circumstances".

It is believed the revamped tests will double the exerted force, which may require Red Bull and Ferrari to amend their designs ahead of their visit to Spa Francorchamps later this month. After winning Sunday's Hungarian Grand Prix at the wheel of the dominant RB6, Mark Webber suggested that rivals' complaints about the front wings was a case of sour grapes.

"When people don't like [what they see on] the stopwatch, they have to justify their own positions," he said. "When there's pressure on people to perform and they're getting destroyed, that's how it is. You should never penalise things that are ingenious and people that are doing a good job, (but) that's sometimes the case."

[Jamie]

I am hoping something chances very soon, because if they are found guilty? I think they should have everything wiped, as it isn't a valid Finnish. Simple....

[vaptin]

I am hoping something chances very soon, because if they are found guilty? I think they should have everything wiped, as it isn't a valid Finnish. Simple....

Won't happen though, well unless redbull mess up and thats no unheard of

They know what the new test will be now, so they'll test it themselves in the factory, if it fails they'll just switch to a legal wing for the race weekend. Although, if the FIA don't make it clear whether this new more stringent test is a one off or not, they may catch them out later in the season.

[racechick]

Why wait till Spa?? They want teams to save money but they're happy to have them all beavering away at a front wing that will be declared illegal. Thats daft. And if it is illegal Red bull need to know to make a legal one .

[Jamie]

I am hoping something chances very soon, because if they are found guilty? I think they should have everything wiped, as it isn't a valid Finnish. Simple....

Won't happen though, well unless redbull mess up and thats no unheard of

They know what the new test will be now, so they'll test it themselves in the factory, if it fails they'll just switch to a legal wing for the race weekend. Although, if the FIA don't make it clear whether this new more stringent test is a one off or not, they may catch them out later in the season.

So they prosper from cheating, that's good. I think this season I am now a hardcore Hulkenberg & Petrov fan!! So i am boycotting the big teams!!!!

[f1ea]

I am hoping something chances very soon, because if they are found guilty? I think they should have everything wiped, as it isn't a valid Finnish. Simple....

Not really. It was legal and cleared by the tests after each specific race. If the FIA will introduce a new test, they have to notify the teams what it consists of. If the flexi wings still pass the new tests.. no problem. If they are able to still work around the new tests... no problem.

It does seem to be a material or geometry used in a cross section that allows flexing while the rest of the wing remains rigid. Activated by the front wing setting? could be. If an angle is changed, so is the rigidity of the element in question.

Guess they have several weeks to make their wings comply with the new testing procedure

[seenathkumar]

F1 racing rules from FIA should be strictly followed or the team should be charged penalty.

[Jabberwocky]

They can not have there results wiped as the cars have been checked and found within the rules. It is not Redbulls fault if the FIA have not done their job correctly.

Lets face it how many people take road cars in for its MOT and it passes even with noticable faults.