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[billindenver]

Sorry billyboy but this is about the cheating rat alonso, nothing to do with lewis,he was to busy handing button his bottom after giving him a head start.
Nah, this time it's eyebrows who is in the hot seat, seems many can handle that.
The rat cheats and that's what happens when you get caught. It was long overdue though, what with his sudden memory lost when his team mate was told to crash his car.
Not this time billyboy, Alonso eyebrows is on top,lol.

I suppose we shall see if Alonso ever gets tears in his eyes and begs for forgiveness in front of a press conference of his own calling. I tend to doubt it, since while Alonso is certainly a whining baby (as is Hamilton when things don't go his way), he at least has enough self esteem not to pull that crap.

My point is they are both whining babies who expect the world to roll over for them. You believe that you are arguing with me because you love Hamilton and me Alonso...you McLaren and me Ferrari. You are wrong as usual. I think both teams pull this crap and both drivers whine on the radio and expect team orders to put them out front. There are many examples of both, so get off your hypocritical pony and condemn them both for it.

[vaptin]

Yes, thats my point.

It's part of the arrogance and make-up up the champion drivers.

Alonso believes he's better than Massa, he belives Massa ought to be playing rear-gunner to him, and that the best bet for Ferrari to win the wdc is to ensure Alonso is in front of Massa.

[f1ea]

Alonso believes he's better than Massa, he belives Massa ought to be playing rear-gunner to him, and that the best bet for Ferrari to win the wdc is to ensure Alonso is in front of Massa.

ok. Who doesn't?
Who here seriously believes Massa is performing better than Alonso (right now, on this season, and in this car)?

Its not rocket science, its happenning all over the field:

Vettel and Webber... pretty much equal. jenson and Lewis... pretty much equal. But

Massa and Alonso... no question.
Rosberg and Schumacher... no question
Petrov and Kubica... no question.

I just dont see why people want to make things more complicated than they should be. The teams are out to win championships. Not to pamper prima donnas. if Alonso was the one struggling, like when Kimi was... then let it rip.

[vaptin]

^I wasn't complaining about that.

[MAD MAX]

I suppose we shall see if Alonso ever gets tears in his eyes and begs for forgiveness in front of a press conference of his own calling. I tend to doubt it, since while Alonso is certainly a whining baby (as is Hamilton when things don't go his way), he at least has enough self esteem not to pull that crap.

My point is they are both whining babies who expect the world to roll over for them. You believe that you are arguing with me because you love Hamilton and me Alonso...you McLaren and me Ferrari. You are wrong as usual. I think both teams pull this crap and both drivers whine on the radio and expect team orders to put them out front. There are many examples of both, so get off your hypocritical pony and condemn them both for it.

And there ladies and gentlemen is yet another example of a so called expert talking bollox. Nowt to do with Hammy, this is about Mr 2 times and the underhand dealings at Ferrari, stick to the topic in hand, this isn't about Hamilton or can't you read the title of the thread redneck

[f1ea]

^I wasn't complaining about that.

Oh yes, i understand. But others feel its a problem when the arrogant champions believe it.

[billindenver]

I suppose we shall see if Alonso ever gets tears in his eyes and begs for forgiveness in front of a press conference of his own calling. I tend to doubt it, since while Alonso is certainly a whining baby (as is Hamilton when things don't go his way), he at least has enough self esteem not to pull that crap.

My point is they are both whining babies who expect the world to roll over for them. You believe that you are arguing with me because you love Hamilton and me Alonso...you McLaren and me Ferrari. You are wrong as usual. I think both teams pull this crap and both drivers whine on the radio and expect team orders to put them out front. There are many examples of both, so get off your hypocritical pony and condemn them both for it.

And there ladies and gentlemen is yet another example of a so called expert talking bollox. Nowt to do with Hammy, this is about Mr 2 times and the underhand dealings at Ferrari, stick to the topic in hand, this isn't about Hamilton or can't you read the title of the thread redneck

Oh look, another mini-mod who wants the internet to go his way.

When you get up on a soapbox and rail away at how Alonso and Ferrari are so wrong...someone is going to point out that your team and your boy have done and still do exactly the same thing. When you act like a hypocrite whining baby while calling an F1 driver a whining baby, someone is going to call you out on it. Welcome to life.

[Fred_C_Dobbs]

While I respect every driver on the grid, including 2 time champion Fernando Alonso. His true colors come out time in and time out...here's a question for Alonso fans

How can you root for a guy with the character of a 5 year old? Wait I take that back...a baby

Please give me some feedback I want to know your thoughts

This is F1 racing, not charm school. No gold stars for eating all your veggies, just for finishing first.

[PartsaS]

..eeing Alonso force Massa into a mistake or out brake him into a turn and take the lead by earning it and doing it all without needless contact. not take the lead simply because the telemetry indicated he was faster

Alonso would have forced Massa into a error, he has done that with the best, including Hamilton. There is no way on earth that Alonso would have let massa win. Massa knew that and just chickened out and let Alonso pass. Massa is the only one that should be fined, because Alonso would never let him get close enough for that to happen. Alonso is faster than you can also mean, step on it boy! We are paying you big money and you two have the same car. Alonso put 4 secs on Massa, why didnt Massa do that? Massa has lost it as a pilot, he has been absolutely irrelevent this championship, and he has one of the best cars. Vettel went after alonso, thats the only reason he was first.

Massa is making ferrari look bad, he is no driver anymore.

came on admit it you are alonso's cousin, aren't you?

[Ineluke]

I suppose we shall see if Alonso ever gets tears in his eyes and begs for forgiveness in front of a press conference of his own calling. I tend to doubt it, since while Alonso is certainly a whining baby (as is Hamilton when things don't go his way), he at least has enough self esteem not to pull that crap.

My point is they are both whining babies who expect the world to roll over for them. You believe that you are arguing with me because you love Hamilton and me Alonso...you McLaren and me Ferrari. You are wrong as usual. I think both teams pull this crap and both drivers whine on the radio and expect team orders to put them out front. There are many examples of both, so get off your hypocritical pony and condemn them both for it.

And there ladies and gentlemen is yet another example of a so called expert talking bollox. Nowt to do with Hammy, this is about Mr 2 times and the underhand dealings at Ferrari, stick to the topic in hand, this isn't about Hamilton or can't you read the title of the thread redneck

Redneck lol, i would not bet against it. For a non fan he sure likes to talk about Lewis a lot.
I think he is a tea bagger,you know one of these sarah palin followers, i bet billyboy loves Obama.
Even in a thread about the cheating rat Alonso eyebrows, he still can't stop talking about Lewis.

[Jabberwocky]

I think Rob Smedley might be after a new job, as the way he worded his transmissions was very clear knowing that the world was listening. If I was Ferrari I would not be happy with him.

I am not saying I would not of done the same in the same situation.

[mafiyo]

By the way, If 'fuel save mode' is the best code for maintaining position, what will be the best for 'let ur teammate pass'..?

[PartsaS]

By the way, If 'fuel save mode' is the best code for maintaining position, what will be the best for 'let ur teammate pass'..?

Rob Smedley to Massa; I smell a rat .... confirm you understood the message!

[MAD MAX]

By the way, If 'fuel save mode' is the best code for maintaining position, what will be the best for 'let ur teammate pass'..?

Rob Smedley to Massa; I smell a rat .... confirm you understood the message!

PMSL

Martin Whitmarsh and Christian Horner let their feelings known http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/motorsport/3069717/McLaren-boss-Id-lose-before-fixing-a-race.html

[Jabberwocky]

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_ ... t_id=41586

Montezemolo: The interest of the team comes before the individual
26/07/2010
Following his team's controversial 1-2 at Hockenheim, Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo has his out at the hypocrisy of the Maranello outfit's critics emphasising that the team comes first.

"The result is down to the efforts of all our people, who never give up," he told the Ferrari website. "Now we have to continue working like this, to improve the car so that is competitive at all the circuits we will encounter.

"Alonso and Massa also did very well, giving their all throughout the weekend," he continued. "The polemics are of no interest to me. I simply reaffirm what I have always maintained, which is that our drivers are very well aware, and it is something they have to stick to, that if one races for Ferrari, then the interests of the team come before those of the individual.

"In any case, these things have happened since the days of Nuvolari and I experienced it myself when I was Sporting Director, in the days of Niki Lauda and not just then...

"Therefore enough of this hypocrisy, even if I can well believe that some people might well have liked to see our two drivers eliminate one another, but that is definitely not the case for me or indeed for our fans."

If it is all about the team then they would score the same amount of points no matter who came 1st or 2nd