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#208307
Take away all points gained in this race WDC & WCC. There is no other credible fix. It's not fair for Redbull and McLaren who have risked so much (Especially Redbull) to comply with the 'no team orders' rule. This is a farce of the German GP and the Championship.
#208309
Either remove Alonso from the win and the teams points or swop the finishing positions. Either way Massa doesnt deserve to be punished.
#208315
Exactly... Team orders are everywhere - there's a lot of money involved. I just really don't understand how Ferrari can't do this in a more "gentle" way - "Massa we need you to use fuel mixture P9" where this one is non existant. Easy.

But... there was no need, still a lot of races to go, let them go at it! We want racing! :clap:
#208316
This is laughable, the whole team is now having to lie over what the messages were in the race!
#208320
" Jenson, slow down, we need to "save fuel" "

yeah, the same orders were given to lewis.


supe, did you miss the orders later to the drivers "There is NO need to save fuel"? Seriously. Thanks for telling us Lewis was told to save fuel, as we all got deaf at that moment of the race. Cheers bud.
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By McHare
#208322
If I had money on Massa to win here today, I would want somebody at Ferrari or Bernie Ecclestone or to pay out. I'd have been robbed. As a TV viewer I am robbed of a battle for the lead. 3 race team ban and nothing less IMHO. A disgrace to F1. A sham.
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By f1ea
#208323
Lie?
Why? what for? give yourselves a break... the Vettel and Webber crash was absurd. If something like this, or if Vettel had passed Alonso or something as they were being held up by Massa... i think Domenicalli should have been removed from his job. I have never seen a bigger struggle than Massa's start on the hard tires...

yet another controversy.... seems like all races will have controversy. Either for something or some other.
By Art1972
#208325
My first post! :wavey:

Ok this was a total shambles and I feel so sorry for Massa!! He eserves better than to play 2nd fiddle to that t%*ser Alonso. Those idiots at Feari get paid a shed load of money to do the job they do and they can't come up with a code for this so called 'BANNED TEAM ORDDERS'???? lmao Couldn't have made it more obvious if they tried!!! Massive fine needed to stop this crap going on!!!

If I was in Massas shoes, after hearing that team radio message, I would have just parked it on the grass!! They way he celebrated at the end was a joke but I guarantee that if Massa had said a big f-you to the message Alonso would have spat his dummy out of his pram!! Never liked him fro when he was with Benneton and never will like him. Overpaid premadona!!!!

Anyway, good stuff from the British boys again. Couldn't really see them getting more than what they got today. Well done boys and onto Hungary. :thumbup:
Last edited by Art1972 on 25 Jul 10, 14:13, edited 1 time in total.
By boogwar
#208326
Ridiculous. How can one say this is a sport when someone other than the participants can determine the outcome? I also found incredulous that Red Bull told Webber to short shift into seventh or they would turn his revs down. Now we all know that the teams have that capability. But for them to come out and SAY it just tells me that the cars might as well be driven by remote control. So even if their intervention was to save the car, Red Bull are just as guilty of team orders as Ferrari was. Who to tell? The whole grid might be guilty of this. We aren't watching sport. F1 is a float parade.
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