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#206621
3 damn irritating races for Ferrari and I'm starting to look at the performances of both drivers, the battle for the update race and of course the sheer bad luck and I feel fairly sure now that Ferrari will not overcome Redbull and McLaren to win either the constructors or the drivers world championships this year.

Started well enough, but then it was the engine worries, couple of mistakes by Alonso, Massa clearly lacking in pace and the Ferrari car just seeming to be losing pretty badly in the development race compared to Mclaren, Redbull and even Reanult for a time.

Although the engine worries seem to have cleared up, they of course still could hit Ferrari later on.

Assuming Massa finds pace, and Alonso cuts out the mistakes (can't be bothered to write a sodden physiological essay on why this is happening. Would Ferrari really start to overhaul their two main rivels? Even at full stretch they'll probably lose points to at least one of McLaren and Redbull. It seems unlikely enough that Massa and Alonso would over come their "demons" in the first place, and even then would a flawless Massa and Alonso really pick up more points then Jenson, Hamilton, Vettel and Webber? That of course relies on a mistakes by Mclaren and Redbull combined with an increase in pace of the F10.

The former there seems unlikely enough, but compared to a McLaren team widely applauded for their development last year, to a Newy lead Red-bull team that caught Brawn last year and have been developing their blown diffusive from race one, can this new look team of Ferrari engineers where key positions are now held by "artificial" promotions after acclaimed engineers such as Brawn and Byrne left the team really do the job required by legions of history, professional pride and of course the Tifosi?

I don't think so, what about you?
#206656
They are way out of the Constructor's fight. I think Alonso could get involved in the WDC fight at some level but will not ultimately come anywhere close to winning.

The most important factor in this championship, really, is that Red Bull appear to have sorted their reliability out yet are still miles ahead.
#206672
No hope for ferrari for the championship.

Like Scotty says, Alonso may have some chances to claim some points but you cannot afford mi-lucks nor mistakes unless you have the absolute best car. They should focus on next yr's regs and try to have the best car. The car is everything.

Whatever mistakes the Red Bulls go through they can manage with a winning car. Same with Massa a couple yrs back, he had a forgiving car. Right now, the F10 does not allow mistakes. And that has been the problem with Ferrari, they need to overdo the car... that leads to mistakes and little incidents/chances that cost a lot when opportunities are scarce.

This championship is not for anyone to win, but for Red Bull to lose. That makes the front wing incident so much more important than it actually could have been. It all depends on how many more mistakes the Red Bull guys do.
#206722
People give too much credit to this team. During the offseason, people were saying this would be a red washout with Alonso snapping up wins like candy.

5 races in, people were saying this team would be winning in the very next race because they have the F-duct now, etcetcetc. Purely for the fact that this team is the most successful F1 team so far with the only double WDC driving for them. Fact is, neither of this matters. They WERE the most successful because of being the oldest team in F1, and their star driver is past his peak. Reflexes, racing skills are shot. Pace still there though.

Let's look at the big picture. McLaren are leading the WDC 1-2, and have a 30 point lead in the WCC. But people are still saying Redbull are in with a massive chance of overhauling both Constructors...which is the truth. They've been messing up in every possible way, and yet have owned the pole positions and have the most wins this season.

What chance does "Ferrari" have? :eek:
#206727
Probably out of the Championship Ferrari and Alonso are for 2010, but until now I had respect for Mansell. From this day forth no more. He was the head steward and he handed injustful punishment to Alonso. I mean it doesn't take the greatest intellect in the world to realise that if Kubica is out of the race, how is Alonso supposed to give it back. And it is not rocket science to realise that, well if Kubica is out, then Alonso will inherit that position anyway. ¡Mansell y toda la su raza hacen asco y son tramposos! ¡Qué vergüenza! Shame, shame, shame!
#206730
well if Kubica is out, then Alonso will inherit that position anyway. ¡Mansell y toda la su raza hacen asco y son tramposos! ¡Qué vergüenza! Shame, shame, shame!


typical Ferrari lamb mentality. Where was this point of view for Hamilton in Spa 08? Kimi crashed out Lewis would have won anyway... but you werent saying that then No siree bob you loved the stewards then!!! :rolleyes:

and get off Mansells back he did nothing wrong, im sick of hearing blame for him from you bunch of sore losers aka Alonso Ferrari fans!
#206735
well if Kubica is out, then Alonso will inherit that position anyway. ¡Mansell y toda la su raza hacen asco y son tramposos! ¡Qué vergüenza! Shame, shame, shame!


typical Ferrari lamb mentality. Where was this point of view for Hamilton in Spa 08? Kimi crashed out Lewis would have won anyway... but you werent saying that then No siree bob you loved the stewards then!!! :rolleyes:

and get off Mansells back he did nothing wrong, im sick of hearing blame for him from you bunch of sore losers aka Alonso Ferrari fans!


+1 :yes:
#206752
well if Kubica is out, then Alonso will inherit that position anyway. ¡Mansell y toda la su raza hacen asco y son tramposos! ¡Qué vergüenza! Shame, shame, shame!


typical Ferrari lamb mentality. Where was this point of view for Hamilton in Spa 08? Kimi crashed out Lewis would have won anyway... but you werent saying that then No siree bob you loved the stewards then!!! :rolleyes:

and get off Mansells back he did nothing wrong, im sick of hearing blame for him from you bunch of sore losers aka Alonso Ferrari fans!


Stuff you and your lamb bullpoo. Typical mentality moja guza! But of course your McLaren oops correction your bud mentality is always correct. Well maybe in Fairy tale land it is but not in reality. The stewards got it wrong here and I know they did. I even downloaded the race in English to see what the English commentators had to say and they were also saying what is Alonso supposed to do and blah blah blah. So your full of it as usual. We shoudl rename the term bullshiit to Budshit. By the way get that stupid German flag off your Avatar. They suck at footbal. SPAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Remember it. :rofl: WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#206755
Nice rebuttal, you just proved my point.


What point? You have none. You don't even have the intelligence to see the facts and the only thing you can ever say is "Ferrari Lambs, Ferrari Lambs, Ferrari Lambs". You are far to easy to read and predict. Ti si dosadan kao proljev! (You are as boring as dirrehea). :thumbup:
#206756
Nice rebuttal, you just proved my point.


What point? You have none. You don't even have the intelligence to see the facts and the only thing you can ever say is "Ferrari Lambs, Ferrari Lambs, Ferrari Lambs". You are far to easy to read and predict. Ti si dosadan kao proljev! (You are as boring as dirrehea). :thumbup:

if you insist but you're just proving me right every time you post your usual drivel.
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