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[billindenver]

...example of Vettel saying on the radio "im going home f*** you"

What a Prima-Donna, I never knew he was Italian?!?! If I was his boss and he said that to me; my response would be "don't bother coming back!!!"

I would be all for the FIA suspending drivers for a race every time they did something stupid that looks bad for the sport. Let some test drivers have a race once in a while when the primadonas get benched. That would clean up all of this drama queen BS real quick. Every other professional sport has the ability to do such things...why not the FIA? Tell the team to go F*** them selves on the radio...take a race off unpaid and reconsider your chosen attitude path. The same would apply to many other infractions. Lying, cheating etc....you get benched. Let the team compete, because sponsorship dollars etc are important...just make them use a backup driver.

[texasmr2]

[f1ea]

Yeah its terrible he would go on saying things like that to his team... which supports him massively. BUT this is no excuse for other drivers who do the same.

But anyway, when did he say this? he crashed out of Turkey... so if it was after the race, it shouldnt have been on the team radio.......

I'm not sure they would 'bench' a bratty driver though (it would be worse for the team to lose pts for the wdc).

[racechick]

...example of Vettel saying on the radio "im going home f*** you"

What a Prima-Donna, I never knew he was Italian?!?! If I was his boss and he said that to me; my response would be "don't bother coming back!!!"

I would be all for the FIA suspending drivers for a race every time they did something stupid that looks bad for the sport. Let some test drivers have a race once in a while when the primadonas get benched. That would clean up all of this drama queen BS real quick. Every other professional sport has the ability to do such things...why not the FIA? Tell the team to go F*** them selves on the radio...take a race off unpaid and reconsider your chosen attitude path. The same would apply to many other infractions. Lying, cheating etc....you get benched. Let the team compete, because sponsorship dollars etc are important...just make them use a backup driver.

Mmm what about all the teams that lie and cheat? Who deputises for them? You'd have no grid

[f1ea]

Mmm what about all the teams that lie and cheat? Who deputises for them? You'd have no grid

"This track should suit our car".
ehhh... No, it doesn't. Benched for lying to the media.

[vaptin]

Drivers can bitch about their own teams without formal fia punishment, its just maybe the team won't give them that pay increase they wanted. . .

[racechick]

Bill i didnt realise Mosely did such a good job on you! Open eyes. Do you really need me to list all the teams that have 'cheated'

Yes please, show me your list. Then explain to me whether or not you condemned those teams for doing so. Tell me what you thought of Schumacher when he did it and then explain to me why my feeling that way now is wrong. Tell me how disliking cheating is a bad thing. Or is it only bad when that cheat is British? You and your tribe were most certainly the loudest ranters when it came to Schuey and his ilk...but now you condemn anyone who hasn't forgiven McLaren a WHOLE year after their latest cheating scandal? Two faced, hypocritical, national loyalists.

Every time anyone says anything that isn't praising Lewis and you and the groupies start a bit s*** throwing fight with them....while you just love to condemn Shuey and Vettel for acting exactly the same way. I disliked Shuey's way of racing, I dislike Hamilton's driving/whining, I said Alonso acted like a whining baby at McLaren and I said that Vettel acted like an bottom after he took out his team mate. You agree with me on three of those points and yet you violently disagree on the third....so tell me darlin, which of us is being hypocritical?

Cheers to everyone for having an opinion...the trick is, applying it equally...even if it's to a driver you cheer for. I still tend to like Alonso, though when he acts like an bottom I say so. Too bad you can never admit fault in your hero. The fact is, I have no driver that I blindly praise no matter what...can you say the same?

The teams:-Ferrari, Benneton, Ferrari, Renault, Ferrari, Torro Rosso, ferrari. Geez I cant remember them all, all of them do it! you're naive if you dont beleive so. So get off your high horse about McLaren.

And for your information my support for Mclaren came with juan and then lewis..Im a driver person. Lewis is nothing like Vettel. Where have you been watching F1!And he doesnt whine.

Finally. no I dont blindly praise or trash drivers. Ive never said lewis doesnt make mistakes, just sick off people being biased against him and picking him out for things everyone does. On the same note dispite my disgust for Schumacher and his tactics, I recognise his pass on alonso was valid. I was prepared to give him a second chance......until he put massa on the grass.

[racechick]

Drivers can bitch about their own teams without formal fia punishment, its just maybe the team won't give them that pay increase they wanted. . .

Fair enough. Its a business deal.

[billindenver]

The teams:-Ferrari, Benneton, Ferrari, Renault, Ferrari, Torro Rosso, ferrari. Geez I cant remember them all, all of them do it! you're naive if you dont beleive so. So get off your high horse about McLaren.

bullpoo. Which of those teams had 'the team made me do it' press conferences after lying to stewards, hearing the radio transmissions and lying again? Which of them had all of their points removed for stealing designs? $100 Million fines? This isn't ancient history.

And for your information my support for Mclaren came with juan and then lewis..Im a driver person. Lewis is nothing like Vettel. Where have you been watching F1!And he doesnt whine.

Huge bullpoo. He just did it over the radio...TWICE. That wasn't whining?

Finally. no I dont blindly praise or trash drivers. Ive never said lewis doesnt make mistakes, just sick off people being biased against him and picking him out for things everyone does. On the same note dispite my disgust for Schumacher and his tactics, I recognise his pass on alonso was valid. I was prepared to give him a second chance......until he put massa on the grass.

More bullpoo. And if you are all up in arms about Massa in the grass...why doesn't it bother you when Hamilton does it?

[myownalias]

I would be all for the FIA suspending drivers for a race every time they did something stupid that looks bad for the sport. Let some test drivers have a race once in a while when the primadonas get benched. That would clean up all of this drama queen BS real quick. Every other professional sport has the ability to do such things...why not the FIA? Tell the team to go F*** them selves on the radio...take a race off unpaid and reconsider your chosen attitude path. The same would apply to many other infractions. Lying, cheating etc....you get benched. Let the team compete, because sponsorship dollars etc are important...just make them use a backup driver.

That is such a great idea; maybe have a card system like in football; yellow cards for minor infractions, a second yellow means a red/black flag and straight red/black flag for running someone off the track a la Schumacher in Montreal, hmm I seem to be agreeing with Bill a lot recently, where's my shotgun!

[darwin dali]

I would be all for the FIA suspending drivers for a race every time they did something stupid that looks bad for the sport. Let some test drivers have a race once in a while when the primadonas get benched. That would clean up all of this drama queen BS real quick. Every other professional sport has the ability to do such things...why not the FIA? Tell the team to go F*** them selves on the radio...take a race off unpaid and reconsider your chosen attitude path. The same would apply to many other infractions. Lying, cheating etc....you get benched. Let the team compete, because sponsorship dollars etc are important...just make them use a backup driver.

That is such a great idea; maybe have a card system like in football; yellow cards for minor infractions, a second yellow means a red/black flag and straight red/black flag for running someone off the track a la Schumacher in Montreal, hmm I seem to be agreeing with Bill a lot recently, where's my shotgun!

May I suggest a low-tech biodegradable solution?

[billindenver]

DD, you are not tying me up again. I promised RC....

[darwin dali]

DD, you are not tying me up again. I promised RC....

We're all friends, she won't mind...

[bud]

But anyway, when did he say this? he crashed out of Turkey... so if it was after the race, it shouldnt have been on the team radio.......

to have said it on team radio he was obviously in the car end of his race!

Just goes to show there is plenty we do not hear from team radios, you only see or hear what the directors want you to.

[racechick]

The teams:-Ferrari, Benneton, Ferrari, Renault, Ferrari, Torro Rosso, ferrari. Geez I cant remember them all, all of them do it! you're naive if you dont beleive so. So get off your high horse about McLaren.

bullpoo. Which of those teams had 'the team made me do it' press conferences after lying to stewards, hearing the radio transmissions and lying again? Which of them had all of their points removed for stealing designs? $100 Million fines? This isn't ancient history.

I didnt say those teams did the things you mentioned, I said they cheated. No they didnt get the huge fine , mosely was only out to get one team at that particular time.
And you think others dont lie to stewards ? Well if we're talking recent...renault. And had the Red Bull accident been investigated add them to the list as the most recent.
Come on Bill. Wise up.