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[texasmr2]

A system we cannot change, luv it or leave.

[Matkins]

The current system for awarding driver points in F1 is so unimaginative and uncompetative my grandmother could arrange better for her retirement home zimmer racing. In my opinion a far more interesting system would be based on time with for example: 50pts awarded for 1st place followed by a loss of 1pt per secound of time counting down from 50secs to Zero thereby if the 2nd place driver finished 7secs behind the winner he would recieve 43pts with points awarded to all who finish within the 50secs, this would result in drivers also racing the clock and not just settling for a safe guaranteed amount of points surely this would lead to more exciting racing and bring back more tyre stop strategy.

If we had such a points system in place this year, here would be the results from the race in Turkey:
Lewis Hamilton - 50 points
Jenson Button - 47 points
Mark Webber - 26 points
Michael Schumacher - 19 points
Nico Rosberg - 18 points
Robert Kubica - 17 points
Felipe Massa - 13 points
Fernando Alonso - 3 points
Adrian Sutil - 1 point
everyone else - 0 points

Hamilton and Button would have cleaned up, Webber would have had about half Hamilton's points, and the rest of the field wouldn't have much to show for the race. Whether this is better or worse I will leave up to you. Giving more points for finishing closer to the guys in the front wouldn't have mattered, however, since the field was simply so far off the pace of the McLarens and Red Bulls. Four cars were leading the race by such a huge margin that they could have all went in for an extra pit stop and still came back out ahead of the rest of the field. Giving the other twenty cars more points for finishing closer to the lead cars wouldn't have given their cars or their drivers any more ability to actually do so. If anything, penalizing the rest of the field for being so far off their pace may take away from the competitiveness, at least in terms of the points race.

As for being unimaginative, having a basic scale of points per position is standard in motorsports. Off the top of my head I cannot think of any that award points based on time behind the leader. I'd say it's pretty typical to have x-amount of points for first, y-amount for second, z-amount for third, and so on. If this is unimaginative, this isn't then just a criticism of F1 but of basically all motorsports.

Yeah but all motorsport IS unimaginative, they haven't even put in loop the loops yet.

I think the time based points system doesn't really suit long races like F1. Might work in a sprint race though. And/or something like A1 GP where there's no technical deficit.

[Cubejam]

I find nothing wrong with it.

I'm not sure what planet you're on that means a points system makes the racing boring.. Certainly not planet earth.

[headless]

I still don't like the new points system, the value of a world Championship point has been depreciated.

Yep exactly.
A new F1 fancould look at the stats book, and after this year alone, see the points records and come to teh conclusion that Adrian Sutil is a better driver than Alberto Ascari.

So it sucks.

And it doesn'tmake that bigger difference to last years.
All the drievrs say "the points system is keeping me in it"
Nah it makes pretty much no difference. Only Alonso and Vettel and Rosbergand Kubica would swap positions in the championship if the points were the same now.

[myownalias]

The new points system is not meant to increase the gap; it's designed to give drivers/teams more incentive to go for the win and not settle for second place!

[vaptin]

Diddn't know Vettle was such a douch, although it seems clear he can't really keep it together at the sharp end of f1,

[headless]

The new points system is not meant to increase the gap; it's designed to give drivers/teams more incentive to go for the win and not settle for second place!

but it has no difference.
It just looks more

[What's Burning?]

but it has no difference.
It just looks more

But this goes to 11

[hesketh308]

Diddn't know Vettle was such a douch, although it seems clear he can't really keep it together at the sharp end of f1,

You could at least spell his name right, its Vettel

but i guess you listen to Jimmy Hendrix too?

[vaptin]

Nah, I just can't spell stuff that firefox spell checker doesn't pick up on.

[scotty]

Diddn't know Vettle was such a douch, although it seems clear he can't really keep it together at the sharp end of f1,

You could at least spell his name right, its Vettel

but i guess you listen to Jimmy Hendrix too?

What's he got to do with anything? Unless you purposefully mis-spelled JIMI

[racechick]

Diddn't know Vettle was such a douch, although it seems clear he can't really keep it together at the sharp end of f1,

I had a pretty good idea he was a douch, even when he was hailed as the squeaky clean answer to F1

[myownalias]

The new points system is not meant to increase the gap; it's designed to give drivers/teams more incentive to go for the win and not settle for second place!

but it has no difference.
It just looks more

How can you say that with absolute certainty? if we didn't have this points system; the results may not have been the same; two points isn't much of an incentive to challenge for a win!

[McLaren]

The new points system is not meant to increase the gap; it's designed to give drivers/teams more incentive to go for the win and not settle for second place!

but it has no difference.
It just looks more

How can you say that with absolute certainty? if we didn't have this points system; the results may not have been the same; two points isn't much of an incentive to challenge for a win!

More focus on reliability aswell of course.

[billindenver]

The new points system is not meant to increase the gap; it's designed to give drivers/teams more incentive to go for the win and not settle for second place!

but it has no difference.
It just looks more

How can you say that with absolute certainty? if we didn't have this points system; the results may not have been the same; two points isn't much of an incentive to challenge for a win!

Amen. We've seen Vettel take out Webber because the points spread means something unlike the past. We then saw Hamilton and Jenson touch, which is very nearly the same thing, because they believed the points mattered. My view...the points spread has done exactly what it was intended to do....make second place a bad enough finish to make 2nd want to push for the win. Seasons past...10 laps to go, don't risk it.....this year, push to the end. End result, better racing.