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[texasmr2]

And this kind of outburst demonstrates why I'm glad you're no longer a mod.

Believe me I'm happier than you are and fyi I quit I was not pushed out again for having an opinion or for stepping on delicate ego's.

Go ahead and warn me or ban me because frankly I don't care either way.

Be careful what you wish for!... ... don't be so defensive, it's only an internet forum after all

Not being defensive just tired of being attacked for having an opinion.

[racechick]

And this kind of outburst demonstrates why I'm glad you're no longer a mod.

Believe me I'm happier than you are and fyi I quit I was not pushed out again for having an opinion or for stepping on delicate ego's.

Go ahead and warn me or ban me because frankly I don't care either way.

Be careful what you wish for!... ... don't be so defensive, it's only an internet forum after all

Not being defensive just tired of being attacked for having an opinion.

I wasnt attacking you, I was asking for clarity of your opinion because it seems to fluctuate. I think its good people have opinions. It would be a boring forum if we all thought the same.

[racechick]

Go ahead and warn me or ban me because frankly I don't care either way.

Be careful what you wish for!... ... don't be so defensive, it's only an internet forum after all

To everyone else, we have seen this argument time and time again and there is no sign of it ending My take is Lewis isn't perfect; yes he is a talented driver but this season he has been erratic and frankly his behaviour has been somewhat to be desired. But this sort of impetuous behaviour seems to be more the 'norm' in F1 right now... If Vettel/Hamilton can't take the heat get the hell out of the kitchen, F1 is [supposedly] a man's sport; no room for whining kids.

No Lewis isnt perfect. But erratic? and badly behaved? Ive not seen that this season.

[myownalias]

No Lewis isnt perfect. But erratic? and badly behaved? Ive not seen that this season.

Not his driving; his behaviour... his moaning over the radio; his sulking in Turkey after the race... We all got on Alonso for being a spoiled brat being clear #1 for his whole career with the exception of his year at McLaren; Lewis has been like that since Jenson has joined McLaren, suddenly he isn't golden boy anymore, no clear #1 driver.

I understand Lewis is passionate but at the same time he is a professional and needs to act like one, if he has any grievances he needs to express them in the debrief; if he worked for an ordinary company and was talking badly about the company; he'd be fired. Less talking and more racing; prove your worth on the track, that is what is needed!!!

[racechick]

No Lewis isnt perfect. But erratic? and badly behaved? Ive not seen that this season.

Not his driving; his behaviour... his moaning over the radio; his sulking in Turkey after the race... We all got on Alonso for being a spoiled brat being clear #1 for his whole career with the exception of his year at McLaren; Lewis has been like that since Jenson has joined McLaren, suddenly he isn't golden boy anymore, no clear #1 driver.

I understand Lewis is passionate but at the same time he is a professional and needs to act like one, if he has any grievances he needs to express them in the debrief; if he worked for an ordinary company and was talking badly about the company; he'd be fired. Less talking and more racing; prove your worth on the track, that is what is needed!!!

I think he has proved himself on the track. And i dont think he wants favours either. he's driving better with a good team mate and he knows its more kudos to beat a good team mate. He doesnt want gifts, he's not like Alonso in that.
All the drivers say things on the radio, especially when things happen they dont understand. Anyway thats my 10 penn'th

[myownalias]

Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree RC

[billindenver]

No Lewis isnt perfect. But erratic? and badly behaved? Ive not seen that this season.

Not his driving; his behaviour... his moaning over the radio; his sulking in Turkey after the race... We all got on Alonso for being a spoiled brat being clear #1 for his whole career with the exception of his year at McLaren; Lewis has been like that since Jenson has joined McLaren, suddenly he isn't golden boy anymore, no clear #1 driver.

I understand Lewis is passionate but at the same time he is a professional and needs to act like one, if he has any grievances he needs to express them in the debrief; if he worked for an ordinary company and was talking badly about the company; he'd be fired. Less talking and more racing; prove your worth on the track, that is what is needed!!!

Bill do you not get sick of saying the same old thing over and over again they've not cheated since Oz 09 every team does somthing dodgy look at SF using a media day to shake down a part on their car.

its not cheating but its not exactly fair...

They've not cheated since 09. You realize we are barely halfway through 2010 right? They got caught cheating last season, after being caught cheating the season before as well. No, I have not forgotten nor forgiven and I'm not tired of saying so just as you are not tired of cheerleading for Hamilton. I still haven't forgiven Schuey for his park job in qualifying....and neither have most of your fan club...so why should McLaren get such a quick pass? Pushing the rules is part of the sport...outright, proven, pre-planned cheating...no sir. Lying to Stewards trying to steal a position...no sir. If the team and the driver were not British, you wouldn't be so kind about it either. If Schumacher had done half as much you would be calling for his head. As RC said...opinions make the world go around. You are welcome to yours and you do post it quite frequently. When someone responds who doesn't agree with you, try not to cry about it...this is after all the internet.

[bud]

Any thread about McLaren turns into an avenue for Bill to come on here and say his usual piece, I swear you have it saved so all you need do is cut and paste!

How about we no longer talk about McLaren and maybe Bill will just float away!

[racechick]

Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree RC

I guess we will on this one

[billindenver]

Any thread about McLaren turns into an avenue for Bill to come on here and say his usual piece, I swear you have it saved so all you need do is cut and paste!

How about we no longer talk about McLaren and maybe Bill will just float away!

That's a great idea. Now, lets see if you can stop cheerleading...to see if I then stop disagreeing with you.

[racechick]

No Lewis isnt perfect. But erratic? and badly behaved? Ive not seen that this season.

Not his driving; his behaviour... his moaning over the radio; his sulking in Turkey after the race... We all got on Alonso for being a spoiled brat being clear #1 for his whole career with the exception of his year at McLaren; Lewis has been like that since Jenson has joined McLaren, suddenly he isn't golden boy anymore, no clear #1 driver.

I understand Lewis is passionate but at the same time he is a professional and needs to act like one, if he has any grievances he needs to express them in the debrief; if he worked for an ordinary company and was talking badly about the company; he'd be fired. Less talking and more racing; prove your worth on the track, that is what is needed!!!

Bill do you not get sick of saying the same old thing over and over again they've not cheated since Oz 09 every team does somthing dodgy look at SF using a media day to shake down a part on their car.

its not cheating but its not exactly fair...

They've not cheated since 09. You realize we are barely halfway through 2010 right? They got caught cheating last season, after being caught cheating the season before as well. No, I have not forgotten nor forgiven and I'm not tired of saying so just as you are not tired of cheerleading for Hamilton. I still haven't forgiven Schuey for his park job in qualifying....and neither have most of your fan club...so why should McLaren get such a quick pass? Pushing the rules is part of the sport...outright, proven, pre-planned cheating...no sir. Lying to Stewards trying to steal a position...no sir. If the team and the driver were not British, you wouldn't be so kind about it either. If Schumacher had done half as much you would be calling for his head. As RC said...opinions make the world go around. You are welcome to yours and you do post it quite frequently. When someone responds who doesn't agree with you, try not to cry about it...this is after all the internet.

Bill i didnt realise Mosely did such a good job on you! Open eyes. Do you really need me to list all the teams that have 'cheated'

[texasmr2]

Any thread about McLaren turns into an avenue for Bill to come on here and say his usual piece, I swear you have it saved so all you need do is cut and paste!

How about we no longer talk about McLaren and maybe Bill will just float away!

Well that would be just another case of not being able to take criticism about Mclaren don't you think? Bill is not the only member to have issues with this subject and yes my previous rant could be percieved as utter but we all have an opinion right? If this is the start of another 'Golden Era' for McLaren great but there are going to be those who disagree, right?

[bud]

Any thread about McLaren turns into an avenue for Bill to come on here and say his usual piece, I swear you have it saved so all you need do is cut and paste!

How about we no longer talk about McLaren and maybe Bill will just float away!

That's a great idea. Now, lets see if you can stop cheerleading...to see if I then stop disagreeing with you.

Haha you post more about Hamilton than I!

[billindenver]

Bill i didnt realise Mosely did such a good job on you! Open eyes. Do you really need me to list all the teams that have 'cheated'

Yes please, show me your list. Then explain to me whether or not you condemned those teams for doing so. Tell me what you thought of Schumacher when he did it and then explain to me why my feeling that way now is wrong. Tell me how disliking cheating is a bad thing. Or is it only bad when that cheat is British? You and your tribe were most certainly the loudest ranters when it came to Schuey and his ilk...but now you condemn anyone who hasn't forgiven McLaren a WHOLE year after their latest cheating scandal? Two faced, hypocritical, national loyalists.

Every time anyone says anything that isn't praising Lewis and you and the groupies start a bit s*** throwing fight with them....while you just love to condemn Shuey and Vettel for acting exactly the same way. I disliked Shuey's way of racing, I dislike Hamilton's driving/whining, I said Alonso acted like a whining baby at McLaren and I said that Vettel acted like an bottom after he took out his team mate. You agree with me on three of those points and yet you violently disagree on the third....so tell me darlin, which of us is being hypocritical?

Cheers to everyone for having an opinion...the trick is, applying it equally...even if it's to a driver you cheer for. I still tend to like Alonso, though when he acts like an bottom I say so. Too bad you can never admit fault in your hero. The fact is, I have no driver that I blindly praise no matter what...can you say the same?

[billindenver]

Any thread about McLaren turns into an avenue for Bill to come on here and say his usual piece, I swear you have it saved so all you need do is cut and paste!

How about we no longer talk about McLaren and maybe Bill will just float away!

That's a great idea. Now, lets see if you can stop cheerleading...to see if I then stop disagreeing with you.

Haha you post more about Hamilton than I!

You better check our respective post counts again. You live on the internet, I do not.