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#203737
And sometimes they bring immediate for safety or some specific track issue.


Those immediate tires must be used only in really quick pit stops. :)

Maybe they are spray-ons? :hehe:


or strap ons... :P

Or later... :P


:) ah Now i get it. hehe When i read this first time I didnt know what you meant, until Burning comented... :hehe:

Hooked on phonics......
#203750
1. Hamilton
2. Alonso
3. Vettel
4. Button
5. Massa
6. Webber
7. Kubica
8. Rosberg
9. Schumacher
10. Petrov

I'm pretty sure Ferrari's change of focus, from there failed attempt on the f-duct to the actual car in general has and will help them.

For each car now, I would give them: (out of 100)

Red Bull / 90 (Design Genius did it again, however they have screwed up alot and had reliability issues again, they are now in the grasps of the other cars, if they dont improve there speed when McLaren change there rear of the car at silverstonne and ferrari finish there upgrades at silverstone, we might see them matching or even behind unless they manage to engineer another ingenious design :)
McLaren / 88 (they might well overtake red bull at SiIverstone, the f-duct really put them in a good position for this year and they produced a decent car anyway)
Ferrari / 86 (Bad focus at the start, they already had issues anyway with the engine but then focused on the f-duct and couldn't get it working very well)
Mercedes / 84 (No real developments, Ross created a shitter of a car this year, they should of put abit more effort into the upper rear of the car for this year)
Renault / 82 (I would of been able to judge them better if they had 2x experienced f1 drivers, but i think they are not far behind Mercedes now)
Force India / 81 (Great car, considering a few years ago we were laughing at them and the only let down (however he impressed me in canada) is Luizzi and the designers/engineers moving to Lotus lol))
#203873
I'm sure that I heard Martin Brundle say on the commentary that Bridgestone need to bring tyres that must be at least two compounds apart, but as always I could be wrong or maybe Martin is even wrong and I heard correctly. But to be honest if there is super soft and soft compounds; that kinda negates the point of the refuelling ban as teams will need to pit 2 to 3 times for tyres, I already found it stupid that there is no refuelling yet teams have to change tyres; so a team can't drive the whole race without stopping!


You were right! Well, they're doing the two-step gap at Hockenheim but that seems like the only race at the moment. Before i was just going off a different autosport article hence the debate. :P

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84663
#203923
Do what the spanish fans will do, have a Siesta - unless Alonso is winning or the Hispanias are (for whatever reason) running 1-2 and a lap ahead of everyone else.
#203942
I think give Valencia a chance. The first race there was boring as hell. The track looks boring since it is basically a giant concrete slab. Not exactly exciting or challenging to drive either. But last years race was absoluety fantastic. Who knows, this years race could be as good.

Personally I'm gonna bet on a Ferrari win this weekend. The car looked better in Montreal, and coming to similar track, with the same tyre's on offer, and massive updates should put them far enough ahead. They really need a win right now to stay in the championship.
#203965
I think give Valencia a chance. The first race there was boring as hell. The track looks boring since it is basically a giant concrete slab. Not exactly exciting or challenging to drive either. But last years race was absoluety fantastic. Who knows, this years race could be as good.

Personally I'm gonna bet on a Ferrari win this weekend. The car looked better in Montreal, and coming to similar track, with the same tyre's on offer, and massive updates should put them far enough ahead. They really need a win right now to stay in the championship.


Montreal has the walls closer to the track and also has straight straights for overtaking.

Valencia was designed by none other than.............................drumroll.................................Tilke :thumbdown::yikes::director:
#204021
SkyBet have it Hamilton, Vettel, Webber and Alonso in qualy and Hamilton, Vettel, Alsonso and Webber for the race.

If the F10b's new exhaust works as advertised (and especially if Ferrari have made any progress with their F-duct), Alonso could be a big surprise.
#204023
Redbull are running an Fduct here, dont count them out.


They're still gonna have the net fastest car, and if anyone can get that duct working on short notice it'll be Newey, but hopefully the others will be closer than ever before (in terms out outright pace i mean).
#204086
McLaren sees Ferrari threat, less worried about Red Bull
ESPNF1 Staff
June 23, 2010 « Valencia ticket sales up this year

The competition is very tight between the top three teams © Sutton Images
McLaren is not concerned about Red Bull's F-duct upgrade for the European Grand Prix but will be keeping a close eye on Ferrari's new low-slung exhaust configuration.

McLaren pioneered the use of an F-duct to increase a car's straight-line speed, and has maintained an advantage over its competitors despite a number of copy-cat designs. Meanwhile, Red Bull has been harbouring an advantage since the start of the season by using hot gasses from low-mounted exhausts to get the most out of its diffuser.

Red Bull is now set to bring its latest version of the F-duct to Valencia in the hope of restoring its supremacy at the front of the field, after missing out on pole to McLaren for the first time this year in Canada. But McLaren engineering director Paddy Lowe said his team is not overly concerned.

"We'll see what they do," Lowe told the Vodafone McLaren Mercedes Phone-In. "They brought it to Turkey and ran it on the Friday, but then bailed out of it for the rest of the weekend. This is their second attempt and it's a system that is not without challenges to get it to work in a way where you're net positive on performance. But I don't know how well they are going to do or not do. It's not a huge concern for us; we expected teams to be playing catch up with us, just as we're emulating the [Red Bull] exhaust. So when Red Bull gets it [the F-duct] to work we are ready to face that."

However, Lowe admitted that McLaren will be keeping an eye on Ferrari in Valencia, as it is bringing a major improvement that will include a new Red Bull-style exhaust system. It has been predicted that the updates could cut the F10's lap times by as much as 0.5 seconds, meaning it would have qualified ahead of McLaren and Red Bull in Montreal.

"That is a concern, but we will have to see how they get on with it," Lowe said. "Mathematically that makes sense [that Ferrari will be ahead], but it all depends on each circuit's characteristics and how it suits some cars and doesn't suit others. We saw that Ferrari really struggled in Turkey so I can't predict, as an overall package, where they will end up or where we will end up."

Lowe confirmed that McLaren will run a similar exhaust layout in time for the British Grand Prix.

"I think it is common knowledge that all the rest of the teams are playing catch-up [to Red Bull] in that area. So that's something we're aiming to bring to the British Grand Prix, to try and make it work from the outset. There are some technical challenges with it, for example blasting your bodywork directly with exhaust flow can generate some reasonably high temperatures. It's certainly not without its challenges to try to hit the ground running with a system like that when we don't have any proper track testing to do. We'll be doing trials at an aerodynamics day [a straight-line test] before Silverstone and then we will have it working in the practice sessions and race it on the Sunday."
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