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[scotty]

See it's easy for Massa to blame the tyres, but all the truly top drivers are capable of modifying their driving styles to adapt to these sorts of problems, imo...

Massa's not that great.

Wait till Turkey. He beat Alonso and schuey easily there.

But what about all the other circuits?!

[Hexagram]

See it's easy for Massa to blame the tyres, but all the truly top drivers are capable of modifying their driving styles to adapt to these sorts of problems, imo...

Massa's not that great.

Wait till Turkey. He beat Alonso and schuey easily there.

But what about all the other circuits?!

Alonso will make Massa look like the average driver he is. If Massa can't beat Alonso in Turkey he has a long 2010 season ahead of him playing second fiddle at Ferrari.

Not to be too hard on Massa though, I think imho he has still not recovered fully from his crash.

[cap-dude]

Button struggled with tyre's this weekend in monaco. Kimi did during 2008. Great drivers can have bad days.

People are making judgements way too soon this year. One or two races in and people have writing off drivers. It's a year long championship, wait till the end before we properly judge drivers.

[billindenver]

Two things in this thread that I cant fathom. One, the far fetched thought that Alonso could push Ferrari into designing the car for him and leaving Massa in the cold. Sure, lets forget that Massa has always been a mediocre driver at best. Second, that Hamilton is the only guy on the grid who could have challenged for the win this weekend. Both beliefs are ridiculous.

Ferrari is all about winning. If Massa was being slighted...that whining baby would be singing to the press daily about it.

Where has anyone said that Lewis could of Challenged for the win? -

1st sentence of the quoted text reads:

Mark Webber drove superbly to take a dominant victory in the Monaco Grand Prix on Sunday but it is hard to escape the feeling that the only man who might have beaten him crossed the finish line seventh.

And Hamilton finished 7th.

[f1ea]

Mark Webber drove superbly to take a dominant victory in the Monaco Grand Prix on Sunday but it is hard to escape the feeling that the only man who might have beaten him crossed the finish line seventh.

And Hamilton finished 7th.

Ahem... Hamilton finished 5th.
Alonso finished 7th, this is the man he was referring to that could have beaten/challenged the Red Bull of Mark Webber.

[racechick]

Mark Webber drove superbly to take a dominant victory in the Monaco Grand Prix on Sunday but it is hard to escape the feeling that the only man who might have beaten him crossed the finish line seventh.

And Hamilton finished 7th.

Ahem... Hamilton finished 5th.
Alonso finished 7th, this is the man he was referring to that could have beaten/challenged the Red Bull of Mark Webber.

Seems its not only the lewis fans that cant get him outa their minds.

[billindenver]

Mark Webber drove superbly to take a dominant victory in the Monaco Grand Prix on Sunday but it is hard to escape the feeling that the only man who might have beaten him crossed the finish line seventh.

And Hamilton finished 7th.

Ahem... Hamilton finished 5th.
Alonso finished 7th, this is the man he was referring to that could have beaten/challenged the Red Bull of Mark Webber.

Seems its not only the lewis fans that cant get him outa their minds.

Doh! Got that one wrong. Nice catch...it was 7th in the driver standings that I saw.

So the writer thought Alonso was the only guy on the track capable of beating Webber? I still think he is daft.

[RJP Kimi]

Think he would of had a shot at it anyway, looked mega on thursday, would have been infront of massa anyway, who had the same race pace as vettel and kubica, so you never know now.

[Hansy]

Mark Webber drove superbly to take a dominant victory in the Monaco Grand Prix on Sunday but it is hard to escape the feeling that the only man who might have beaten him crossed the finish line seventh.

And Hamilton finished 7th.

Ahem... Hamilton finished 5th.
Alonso finished 7th, this is the man he was referring to that could have beaten/challenged the Red Bull of Mark Webber.

Seems its not only the lewis fans that cant get him outa their minds.

Doh! Got that one wrong. Nice catch...it was 7th in the driver standings that I saw.

So the writer thought Alonso was the only guy on the track capable of beating Webber? I still think he is daft.

If anyone could do it, it would be Alonso, had he qualified.

[Gaz]

Mark Webber drove superbly to take a dominant victory in the Monaco Grand Prix on Sunday but it is hard to escape the feeling that the only man who might have beaten him crossed the finish line seventh.

And Hamilton finished 7th.

Ahem... Hamilton finished 5th.
Alonso finished 7th, this is the man he was referring to that could have beaten/challenged the Red Bull of Mark Webber.

Seems its not only the lewis fans that cant get him outa their minds.

Doh! Got that one wrong. Nice catch...it was 7th in the driver standings that I saw.

So the writer thought Alonso was the only guy on the track capable of beating Webber? I still think he is daft.

Alonso was on it all weekend mate, if he hadn't of crashed i wouldn't of written him off.

[EwanM]

Very interesting and informative article. Certainly over 2007 McLaren, Alonso break-up.

It goes a good way to show why Lewis was able to regulary challenge and beat Fernando, and Lewis himself has admitted to this. During the start of the year it was Alonso getting his own way within McLaren, but later they began listening to Lewis just as much as Alonso. We've seen just how much of an advantage having a car your comfortable with has provided, and the main example is Kubica and Renault this year. Renault have diverted all their attention to Kubica, making him comfortable in the car, and extremely fast, whilst Petrov suffers from lack of input really.

Things are very different this year though. Alonso has really managed to get key people within Ferrari on his side, and it's Massa who is suffering because of it. I don't believe for one second that Massa is just randomly struggling at times this year, because it's just not like him. Clearly Ferrari are favouring Alonso in terms of key car development.


This is kinda why I'm not a fan of Alonso. I'd admire his driving, but not how he finds that speed. He tends to run around like a spoilt brat at times, demanding that number 1 status within a team. We seen it at Renault constantly, much to the expense of Fisichella. We seen him try the same at McLaren, only for Hamilton and Ron to stick a spanner in the works, and now we're seeing it at Ferrari.

Well then you must not be a fan of alot of Formula One's past greats because they all did the same? Winning the team over and having it centralised around you (whether your team-mate still has a free hand to race with you or not) is not new to Formula One.

[vaptin]

Mark Webber drove superbly to take a dominant victory in the Monaco Grand Prix on Sunday but it is hard to escape the feeling that the only man who might have beaten him crossed the finish line seventh.

And Hamilton finished 7th.

Ahem... Hamilton finished 5th.
Alonso finished 7th, this is the man he was referring to that could have beaten/challenged the Red Bull of Mark Webber.

Seems its not only the lewis fans that cant get him outa their minds.

Doh! Got that one wrong. Nice catch...it was 7th in the driver standings that I saw.

So the writer thought Alonso was the only guy on the track capable of beating Webber? I still think he is daft.

Think about it Bill, Alonso diddn't qualify and Webber blew away all the other front runners, process of elimination alone leaves only Alonso left for a potential challenger to Webber in Monaco.

[bud]

Like Lewis said Redbull were taking it easy, I don't think Alonso would have made an impact on webber let alone vettel! End of the day the 6 guys ahead of Alonso didn't wreck their cars in P3, All this If talk is pointless! Could throw in, if there wasn't a SC on the first lap Ferando wouldn't have finished in the points!

[Hexagram]

Like Lewis said Redbull were taking it easy, I don't think Alonso would have made an impact on webber let alone vettel! End of the day the 6 guys ahead of Alonso didn't wreck their cars in P3, All this If talk is pointless! Could throw in, if there wasn't a SC on the first lap Ferando wouldn't have finished in the points!

Loving your new avatar/sig bud

[vaptin]

Like Lewis said Redbull were taking it easy, I don't think Alonso would have made an impact on webber let alone vettel! End of the day the 6 guys ahead of Alonso didn't wreck their cars in P3, All this If talk is pointless! Could throw in, if there wasn't a SC on the first lap Ferando wouldn't have finished in the points!

The point was the pace Alonso seemed to have. He might have been fast enough. Though probably not.