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[Gaz]

you know how hard he would have to hit somthing to hurt that rim lol?

It can't be that strong, or it wouldn't have just broken by itself.

No the suspension would break first before the rim everytime!

[FerrariFan63]

From what I read it was a puncture:
http://en.espnf1.com/spain/motorsport/story/16634.html

I also saw at the race that it looked like the tire blew. But yeah... Hamilton-hatenist. Its a new religion.

What kind of paranoia is that? Someone says that a rim failure (which is still the suspected cause) on Hamilton's car looks like it was a mechanical failure or design fault, and you come up with "Hamilton-hatenist. It's a new religion." What kind of weird thought processes made you come out with a statement like that?

[FerrariFan63]

you know how hard he would have to hit somthing to hurt that rim lol?

It can't be that strong, or it wouldn't have just broken by itself.

No the suspension would break first before the rim everytime!

If the rim is so strong that the suspension would break before the rim, then why did the rim break (current theory) rather than the suspension? All else being equal, it may be reasonable to say that the rim is much stronger than the suspension and that the suspension would break first in cases of stress (however caused). But in this case it appears that the rim failed and the suspension didn't. So clearly the former reasoning doesn't apply here.

[Gaz]

you know how hard he would have to hit somthing to hurt that rim lol?

It can't be that strong, or it wouldn't have just broken by itself.

No the suspension would break first before the rim everytime!

If the rim is so strong that the suspension would break before the rim, then why did the rim break (current theory) rather than the suspension? All else being equal, it may be reasonable to say that the rim is much stronger than the suspension and that the suspension would break first in cases of stress (however caused). But in this case it appears that the rim failed and the suspension didn't. So clearly the former reasoning doesn't apply here.

What the hell are you talking about its not a case of failing due to being smashed about its broken internally so its not a case of structual weakness its a manufacturing flaw?

[Besson]

I think its disgusting the way certain members have spoken about the spanish fans. Yes, the way a handful of morons have acted is digraceful, however the vast VAST majority of fans from spain are decent people enjoying racing

are all English people racist because they have the BNP? of course theyre not but this way of thinking would let us belive so

judging an entire countrys opinion on something based upon a tiny collective of people or a single organisations ideology is insane

as for the blue flags apparently not being waved often enough for LH due to bias, some people on here really need to grow up

also on a little side note

i find it extremely hypocritical of Racechick to criticise people who are pleased Hamilton went out when only a few weeks ago she was gloating about Alonso's sudden exit

[FerrariFan63]

No the suspension would break first before the rim everytime!

OK, it's only the current theory that the rim broke. But provided that this turns out to be the cause, then clearly this time the rim will have broken before the suspension. Is it known for sure that the Lotus failure was the rim?

[racechick]

i find it extremely hypocritical of Racechick to criticise people who are pleased Hamilton went out when only a few weeks ago she was gloating about Alonso's sudden exit

Read my comments again.I was not criticising, I was questioning.

[f1ea]

From what I read it was a puncture:
http://en.espnf1.com/spain/motorsport/story/16634.html

I also saw at the race that it looked like the tire blew. But yeah... Hamilton-hatenist. Its a new religion.

What kind of paranoia is that? Someone says that a rim failure (which is still the suspected cause) on Hamilton's car looks like it was a mechanical failure or design fault, and you come up with "Hamilton-hatenist. It's a new religion." What kind of weird thought processes made you come out with a statement like that?

It makes no sense, does it?

It means that i have said Hamilton got a puncture, based on what i read on the link above and what i could see from watching the race. And yet, because of that, i am called a Hamilton hater... (read a few pages back). So, i'd just make things easier for the Hammy-crew....

you know how hard he would have to hit somthing to hurt that rim lol?

It can't be that strong, or it wouldn't have just broken by itself.

No the suspension would break first before the rim everytime!

Its happened twice the other way around. So... is there some kind of design feature the MP use that actually load the rims harder than other cars??
I dont know how the Mclaren suspension/rim/wheel/brake design distributes the loads amongst the parts. I do know the MP has a very good mechanical grip compared to the others; and that its failed the same F-L twice in the same circuit, a circuit that puts high loads on the F-L... hmmmm makes me think, something is up that's above our knowledge......... and I dont think it was another mere coincidence.

I think its disgusting the way certain members have spoken about the spanish fans. Yes, the way a handful of morons have acted is digraceful, however the vast VAST majority of fans from spain are decent people enjoying racing

judging an entire countrys opinion on something based upon a tiny collective of people or a single organisations ideology is insane

as for the blue flags apparently not being waved often enough for LH due to bias, some people on here really need to grow up

also on a little side note

i find it extremely hypocritical of Racechick to criticise people who are pleased Hamilton went out when only a few weeks ago she was gloating about Alonso's sudden exit

Its called a DOUBLE STANDARD

The rest is conspiracy theories born when their pseudo-logic fails. It's happened in the Schumacher era... it happens now. Will always happen unless it is 'their' character winning. The "english" crew gloated about every single mistake MS ever made... to the point of minimising his championships even because of his teammates' credit!

As I remember, Lewis' title came when he had his weakest teammate. Is it a worthless title?

[racechick]

i find it extremely hypocritical of Racechick to criticise people who are pleased Hamilton went out when only a few weeks ago she was gloating about Alonso's sudden exit

Its called a DOUBLE STANDARD

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See my previous post.

[bud]

Racechick doesnt only come on here when Alonso has a DNF just to gloat like the losers who only appear when Lewis has a problem. Ban the duck i say!

[The Oz]

It's tempting to write Lewser but thats kinda harsh. He did well all race too. Good work by Schumi too 4th place

[Jamie]

Brilliant for Alonso this weekend Luck was on his side, which doe make a rather big difference from different races. But i hope that luck carries him to next race. I hope JB and Alonso can be the title fighters

[bud]

I hope JB and Alonso can be the title fighters

hoping wont beat Redbull....

[headless]

I think its disgusting the way certain members have spoken about the spanish fans. Yes, the way a handful of morons have acted is digraceful, however the vast VAST majority of fans from spain are decent people enjoying racing

Why what happened this time??
AM loking forawrd to Monaco with the really fast backmarkers.

[bud]

I think its disgusting the way certain members have spoken about the spanish fans.

youre right i forgot to add the Spanish marshals!