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[Fact Man]

Vettel had no reasons to move to the left for Hamilton.
Vettel was slightly ahead of Hamilton, therefore, had every right to keep his position.
Vettel knew that if he had moved to the left, Hamilton was going to try to pass in the pits.
It should have been Hamilton's job to slow down and realize that Vettel was not going to let him by.

But what do I know...I'm no Hamilton fan...

Hamilton could not have passed Vettel without exceding the speed limit so Vettel did not need to do what he did.
Vettel had no obligation to Hamilton to give him room but if these tyres touched there'd be the possibility of Vettel becoming airborne so to safely slow down Hamilton would have to go further right, but that would take him even closer to the pit equipment. Both extremely dangerous situations considering other people in the pitlane and on the pitwall in that pic.

I guess this shot was taken shortly after LH was released and joined SV.
If my memory serves me right, shortly after this shot LH managed to pull to the right and his tires were clear of SV's tires but LH kept racing him for the whole length of the pit lane.
It was clear that there were no cars being serviced nor there were any crews outside. So LH had the space and time to pull couple of feet to the right and clear SV but even when his tires were clear of SV, he maintained his speed!!!
As for the pit lane entrance, I believe both LH and FA were wrong.

[bud]

Hipchick5 you wanna be a smart arse then so be it!

You're accusing me of making assumptions based on your avatar well guess what smart arse so have you.... Do you not see I'm I McLaren fan and not merely just a fan of Lewis? Aside from that you have your view on what happened in Sepang that's great lucky you're not a steward. Lewis got a warning during the race and pre race China as you politely pointed out the stewards clarified their views to the drivers. He got a warning so what is your beef again?

Oh and I sent you a pm in confidence, your further lack of respect is duelly noted I will make your stay here alot of fun now DH you're marked!

[nikon133]

I don't see Lewis much different from the last year. He was always tough fighter, never the one to make compromises. He might be a bit more... tense this season, but lets not forget last two years he was driving with good old Heiki who was not much of a challenge, leaving Lewis as undisputed Numero Uno in McLaren, while today Lewis for team-mate has F1 champion who's medal is fresher than his, and who is doing a bit better at the moment (even if he just joined the team); that has to make some impact.

(plus JB has much, much better girlfriend, so even if he looses on the track, he still has something to be happy about )

At the end of the day, I'm still not big fan of LH, but fact is that F1 would be noticeably less interesting without him. Even if I don't like him much, I like him where he is. It's like having modern version of best-days MS, but for a change, in the team I support. And stripped off his primadonna privileges (talking about golden age MS here, not LH). But even if he is not my favourite, I do believe he has more raw speed than JB. I'm wondering if JB could beat Lewis without strategy/circumstances involved, say in a perfectly clean and sunny race without any ugly surprises. Somehow I don't see that happening easily... so all LH has to do is to keep it together and does his job. Results will come for him. Really no reason to be nervous.

[jacko]

Hamiltons aggresive driving behavior is really bad this year, weaving on the track is so dangerous it doest matter if he was trying to break the toe of petrov or not he was still weaving. Then at china there was the pit lane incident where mclaren released him into the path of Vettel many other drivers have had penilties for doing this then he tryed to overtake Vettel in the pitlane. What does he think hes doing?

[Gaz]

:director: Hamiltons aggresive driving behavior is really bad this year, weaving on the track is so dangerous it doest matter if he was trying to break the toe of petrov or not he was still weaving. Then at china there was the pit lane incident where mclaren released him into the path of Vettel many other drivers have had penilties for doing this then he tryed to overtake Vettel in the pitlane. What does he think hes doing?

oh go watch some paint dry F1 is obviouly too exciting for you.

[darwin dali]

he was trying to break the toe of petrov

Ouch, that would be painful and not very nice!

[BritishBear]

Good f***ing grief, is it possible to have any discussion on this forum without it disintegrating into shit-slinging at one another?

[Frosty]

Then at china there was the pit lane incident where mclaren released him into the path of Vettel many other drivers have had penilties for doing this then he tryed to overtake Vettel in the pitlane. What does he think hes doing?

Two things number one is that Lewis was released within a second of Vettel and the pit lane was clear, number two is that it's not Lewis's fault if he is released into the path of another car because pit release is the lollipop man's job.

You could argue that once Lewis was released he should of backed off sooner but Vettel was equally bad by pushing Lewis off the pitlane and towards the airguns. They were both treated equally both given a reprimand and that consistency by the stewards is what matters .

[MAD MAX]

Good f***ing grief, is it possible to have any discussion on this forum without it disintegrating into shit-slinging at one another?

Obviously not. Welcome to the bear pit

[billindenver]

No matter what Hamilton does he gets drilled by the usual suspects it's bloody pathetic! Heaven forbid if it was he who jump started in China......
Nothing was wrong with the pitlane incident with vettel it was decided a racing incident nothing more nothing less!
If any other driver was involved there would be no critics that's for sure!

What a bunch of crap. We have seen other drivers penalized for being released into another driver. Hamilton (and Alonso) choose to overtake going into the pitlane and then race someone down the pitlane and you actually have the nerve to say it isn't dangerous? So, in your racing experience, you believe it would be safe and ok for drivers to be given the green light to overtake outside of the safety lines on the pitlane? Are you freakin daft? What if every driver out there decided to act like your hero? I'll tell you...someone would get killed. I only hope it's the jerk acting like that and not some innocent mechanic. If you seriously cant see the unnecessary danger in both Lewis and Alonso's antics of that race, then you have no racing knowledge whatsoever and are merely another Hamilton groupie. Jesus Christ, this is an undefendable position and yet you do so with such fervor. You should be embarrassed.

[bud]

Sod off Bill will you! Dont act all high and mighty now! Where was I talking about the pit entry racing of Hamilton? I was referring to the fact the stewards deemed that Hamilton and Vettel were released at the same time and that there was no penalty required for either! Thus its a racing incident

By the way Mr sook, I believe in your NAStyCAR there is plenty of racing going on in the pitlane or should i say pit road so I hope the next race i tune into i see your ugly mug protesting how dangerous motorsport can be....

[hipcheck5]

Bud, you pathetic , little man, stop sending me pm's, I have no desire to talk to you. You have made it very obvious and very clear that you are the very definition of the people I was talking about.

I also think it's rather humorous how you keep moving the goalposts and ignoring what doesn't suit your fanboy attitude in order to answer me without admitting when you are wrong.

Don't bother responding as I know it will more fanboy excrement.

P.S.- Don't send me any more pm's.

[billindenver]

Sod off Bill will you! Dont act all high and mighty now! Where was I talking about the pit entry racing of Hamilton? I was referring to the fact the stewards deemed that Hamilton and Vettel were released at the same time and that there was no penalty required for either! Thus its a racing incident

By the way Mr sook, I believe in your NAStyCAR there is plenty of racing going on in the pitlane or should i say pit road so I hope the next race i tune into i see your ugly mug protesting how dangerous motorsport can be....

You are seriously going to defend an F1 move by pointing at Nascar? Wow, this is a new low even for you. I would point out the difference between a closed wheel car bumping another and an open wheel car touching tires, but the technical aspects would clearly be over your head. Besides, you aren't interested in who gets killed, as long as your hero isn't penalized like any other driver on the circuit would have been.

The typical part of your post is you say you were not defending the pitlane entry in your first paragraph, and then you defend it in your second. So, not only do you not know or care about the lives of pit lane mechanics, but you can't hold a thought long enough to not contradict it in the same post. As far as what is or is not ok in Nascar, I'll leave that to experts such as yourself. I've never watched a Nascar race, but apparently it's your thing. Perhaps you should go post on some Nascar board then, since their idea of driving so closely follows yours.

Oh, and don't send me PM's telling me you responded to my post. I can see that for myself, you attention starved child. If you spent one day in an actual race car driving instead of stroking your Hamilton poster...you would learn enough about racing to actually have an opinion worth reading. I have more hours on the track, in a race car than you have polishing your autographed picture of dear Lewis. I don't need your private communication...save that for your Hamilton Fan club.

[bud]

two onto one now

[hipcheck5]

Here is the type of person Bud is, since my post six minutes ago I have received two pm's saying:

ill send as many as i choose to wee man!

Apparently he is a 10 year old fanboy.