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[darwin dali]

As I said before: repeating a lie doesn't make it true. McLaren did NOT win the WCC!

[texasmr2]

As I said before: repeating a lie doesn't make it true. McLaren did NOT win the WCC!

The issue seem's to be with the word WON so I started using AWARDED to avoid the barrage, it might eventually be accepted, ah who am I kidding???

[samcmh]

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

[raithrover]

Ferrari ensured this season turned out to be a bit of a farce with their antics. Shame for Kimi as he's been great in the 2nd half of the season, but I don't think that will spoil the parites in Italy.

[Tero]

[quote="texasmr2"][quote="darwin_dali"]As I said before: repeating a lie doesn't make it true. McLaren did NOT win the WCC![/quote]
The issue seem's to be with the word [b]WON[/b] so I started using [b]AWARDED[/b] to avoid the barrage, it might eventually be accepted, ah who am I kidding???[/quote]

Check your facrs people

Ron Dennis' team were unable to score any constructors' points in Budapest after the shenanigans in qualifying, which the stewards ruled were ‘prejudicial to the interests of the competition and to the interests of motor sport generally'.

Which means Ferrari 204 Pts. Mclaren 203 Pts.

[McLaren Fan]

Ron Dennis' team were unable to score any constructors' points in Budapest after the shenanigans in qualifying, which the stewards ruled were ‘prejudicial to the interests of the competition and to the interests of motor sport generally'.

Which means Ferrari 204 Pts. Mclaren 203 Pts.

Indeed, but that penalty was a farce, part of the FIA-Ferrari witch hunt against McLaren. Once again, there was no rule governing what McLaren supposedly did wrong, so FIA-Ferrari just roll out their old favourite. McLaren are constuctors' champions for the tenth time this season.

[Tero]

So anytime mclaren gets any kind of penalty it´s FIA witch hunt against Mclaren?

[deMuRe]

Kimi said in the live press conference he was much happier with his team then last year.

I thought that was a fairly big slap in McLaren's face.

McLaren Fan what you are saying has been said by every McLaren fan 100 times over the last few weeks, nobody is listening. Just a big bunch of sour grapes.

[McLaren Fan]

Nobody's listening. It's all sour grapes. Well, what about Sir Jackie Stewart, Mark Blundell, Niki Lauda, Martin Brundell, Nigel Mansell, Damon Hill and many other drivers and engineers et al.? The fact is a lot of people agree with me, other McLaren fans and other Formula One fans in general, about the running of the FIA and its favouritism of Ferrari.#

As I said earlier in this thread about Raikkonen's view:

f Raikkonen likes things better at Ferrari that's his prerogative. They have their way, McLaren have theirs. If you don't like a team's approach, don't join them. The McLaren way has made it the most successful team in Formula One per years existed with the most dominant Formula One car ever built, with ten constructors' championships and eleven drivers' championships. They must be doing something right, I'll tell you that.

[deMuRe]

Yeah but they are all British McLaren Fanboys, of course they are going to be biased...

Perhaps McLaren were upset of being used as Ferrari's training school when it came to Kimi. I was reading in British Autosport 3 years ago that Kimi had already signed a long term deal with Ferrari. Which essentially turned Kimi into Ferrari's spy whilst he was at McLaren when you think about it.

The point I'm trying to make is perhaps this whole StephneyGate saga was McLaren getting a bit of their own back but going about it the wrong way...

[McLaren Fan]

Yeah but they are all British McLaren Fanboys, of course they are going to be biased...

The point I'm trying to make is perhaps this whole StephneyGate saga was McLaren getting a bit of their own back but going about it the wrong way...

No bias. What I posted about the McLaren way is fact. As for your last point:

[deMuRe]

Mate you're rattling your sabre accusing the FIA of having alterior motives against McLaren, other then what they are meant to do, preserve the good of the sport.

There's bias in everything you say...

I'm just throwing ideas up in the air, Ferrari and McLaren have been at each other's throats for years...

[darwin dali]

As I said before: repeating a lie doesn't make it true. McLaren did NOT win the WCC!

The issue seem's to be with the word WON so I started using AWARDED to avoid the barrage, it might eventually be accepted, ah who am I kidding???

Check your facrs people

Ron Dennis' team were unable to score any constructors' points in Budapest after the shenanigans in qualifying, which the stewards ruled were ‘prejudicial to the interests of the competition and to the interests of motor sport generally'.

Which means Ferrari 204 Pts. Mclaren 203 Pts.

Excellent point - that'll take the wind out of MF's sail

[ArtHowe]

Strange post Dali considering that it has obviously done no such thing, and rightly so. McLaren Fan has his spinnaker set fair as far as I, or anyone else, can see. Other than rabid anti-McLaren afficionados that is. And let's face it, you're more rabid than most.

[darwin dali]

Strange post Dali considering that it has obviously done no such thing, and rightly so. McLaren Fan has his spinnaker set fair as far as I, or anyone else, can see. Other than rabid anti-McLaren afficionados that is. And let's face it, you're more rabid than most.

Your suffering from the typical McLaren-blindness-don't-want-to-see-the-truth syndrome. Do the math and come to the only conclusion that is supported by facts: McLaren did not score any constructors' points because of Stepneygate. So they did NOT win the WCC. Even if in your or MF's bout of blindness-syndrome you make the case that they did score more points than Ferrari (once you take the penalty out of the equation), they still didn't get more points than Ferrari because of an unrelated infraction for which they got their constructors points docked in Hungary. Those are the facts.

My post was done without the subsequent postings (pagebreak was obscured) taken into account so I hadn't seen MF's reaction, which was the to be expected reaction...