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#193115
Now I'm confused as to which driver your argueing over, if its Alonso isn't that Vanilla Bears job?? :confused:

...Huh? Oh, are you talking about this:
Oh then I must hate Alonso then too, since he's the bes...

Wait, I like Alonso.

Oh...Well, surely I hate Hamilto...

Wait...I don't hate Hamilton Either...

And they're the best...And Button's better than Vettel.

By jove, you guys are wrong!

That was just me pointing out that I like plenty of drivers who are bigger threats than Vettel.
#193131
Now I'm confused as to which driver your argueing over, if its Alonso isn't that Vanilla Bears job?? :confused:

...Huh? Oh, are you talking about this:
Oh then I must hate Alonso then too, since he's the bes...

Wait, I like Alonso.

Oh...Well, surely I hate Hamilto...

Wait...I don't hate Hamilton Either...

And they're the best...And Button's better than Vettel.

By jove, you guys are wrong!

That was just me pointing out that I like plenty of drivers who are bigger threats than Vettel.


Spot on, i don't like the team and what they currently stand for which is business and to promote RB. I don't find Vettel a threat, i find RB a threat. Due to there unlimited amount of funds and can P**s money. Just like Ferrari used to be able to. I think they need to research the car and the special system that Whitmarsh picked out....

Com'on Stefano!! Get on them!!!!! Com'on Luca di Montezemolo!!!

(are RB not a Ferrari sponsor....?)

It's everything about him. He's the antithesis of Button in a lot of ways.

:rofl:
He's okay, i don't mind his personallity, it's his team :thumbdown:

I'm sorry, but...What's so funny?


The way you hate everything lol :)
#193193
The threat of him :hehe:


Heh, my thoughts exactly

And Button's better than Vettel.



hahahahahaha

:hehe:


Number WDC's Vettle has - 0
Number of Times Vettle has overtaken for the win - 0
Number of Times Vettle has overtaken ever - 0

Number of WDC Buton has - 1
number of times button has overtaking for the win - 2 good ones i can think of
Number of times Button has overtaken ever - lots.


honestly if Webber slamed it past vettle at the start of Oz vettle would be on the team radio unsure of what to do next, as he dosn't understand the concept of an overtake.
#193210
Haha, although to be fair my cynicism is reasonable given your (imo) cop out reasoning for disliking him.

It's a cop out to hate the way he acts, drives and is presented and treated?


I'm just going off the dodgy reasons you have previously given for disliking him - 'the antithesis of Button'... bizarre.

Number of Times Vettle has overtaken ever - 0



he dosn't understand the concept of an overtake.


Simply put, you are actually wrong.
#193221
The threat of him :hehe:


Heh, my thoughts exactly

And Button's better than Vettel.



hahahahahaha

:hehe:


Number WDC's Vettle has - 0
Number of Times Vettle has overtaken for the win - 0
Number of Times Vettle has overtaken ever - 0

Number of WDC Buton has - 1
number of times button has overtaking for the win - 2 good ones i can think of
Number of times Button has overtaken ever - lots.


honestly if Webber slamed it past vettle at the start of Oz vettle would be on the team radio unsure of what to do next, as he dosn't understand the concept of an overtake.



:rofl:

Gaz at least we can agree on one thing. Vettel is a bad driver and i don't feel he has any talent. He won't wind the 2010 WDC, and in Malaysia i hope he will :thumbdown:
#193230
The threat of him :hehe:


Heh, my thoughts exactly

And Button's better than Vettel.



hahahahahaha

:hehe:


Number WDC's Vettle has - 0
Number of Times Vettle has overtaken for the win - 0
Number of Times Vettle has overtaken ever - 0

Number of WDC Buton has - 1
number of times button has overtaking for the win - 2 good ones i can think of
Number of times Button has overtaken ever - lots.


honestly if Webber slamed it past vettle at the start of Oz vettle would be on the team radio unsure of what to do next, as he dosn't understand the concept of an overtake.


This is wrong at so many levels. Do you honestly believe it?
#193236
Haha, although to be fair my cynicism is reasonable given your (imo) cop out reasoning for disliking him.

It's a cop out to hate the way he acts, drives and is presented and treated?


I'm just going off the dodgy reasons you have previously given for disliking him - 'the antithesis of Button'... bizarre.

How is that bizarre? Seems pretty logical for me. I hate Vettel for all the reasons I like Button. He's like the exact opposite of Jenson on and off the track.
#193237
Haha, although to be fair my cynicism is reasonable given your (imo) cop out reasoning for disliking him.

It's a cop out to hate the way he acts, drives and is presented and treated?


I'm just going off the dodgy reasons you have previously given for disliking him - 'the antithesis of Button'... bizarre.

How is that bizarre? Seems pretty logical for me. I hate Vettel for all the reasons I like Button. He's like the exact opposite of Jenson on and off the track.


I suppose I'll bite, how so?
#193239
Haha, although to be fair my cynicism is reasonable given your (imo) cop out reasoning for disliking him.

It's a cop out to hate the way he acts, drives and is presented and treated?


I'm just going off the dodgy reasons you have previously given for disliking him - 'the antithesis of Button'... bizarre.

How is that bizarre? Seems pretty logical for me. I hate Vettel for all the reasons I like Button. He's like the exact opposite of Jenson on and off the track.


He's just a twat. If he was @ Ferrari it would be different i will admit.
#193248

Gaz at least we can agree on one thing. Vettel is a bad driver and i don't feel he has any talent. He won't wind the 2010 WDC, and in Malaysia i hope he will :thumbdown:


lol thats got to be the most sh1te I've heard so far today, mind you there's still plenty time for more yet
#193250
Haha, although to be fair my cynicism is reasonable given your (imo) cop out reasoning for disliking him.

It's a cop out to hate the way he acts, drives and is presented and treated?


I'm just going off the dodgy reasons you have previously given for disliking him - 'the antithesis of Button'... bizarre.

How is that bizarre? Seems pretty logical for me. I hate Vettel for all the reasons I like Button. He's like the exact opposite of Jenson on and off the track.


I suppose I'll bite, how so?

Button is the ultimate race driver. Slower over one lap, but brilliant over a race distance, and a genius at strategy & managing the car. His driving is beautiful and precise, he turns the wheel and the car flows around the turn with nary a hint of excess drama. Vettel is all flash and he finishes too quickly. Tries to win the race on Saturday. He throws the car around and corrects whatever screw up he makes and has a total disregard for keeping the car together.

Button is calm in a race, calculating. Always looking ahead, keeping it together, thinking things through. When he needs to overtake, he aims the car precisely and slides through with so little drama he makes it look like he's not really doing anything at all - that's why so many people seem oblivious to just how good at it he is. When something goes wrong, he sets his mind to work on sorting it out ("Rears going off>losing position>if Inters going off, it's dry>'I'm coming in for dries'", or "bad qualy session...Good race pace. Weekend not lost. Lap 1 critical. Must overtake - and then he does it").

Vettel is only calm if he can race off at the front. Under pressure from a faster car (Button, Turkey) he makes needless mistakes. If something goes wrong or he's in the mid-field, he throws a tantrum in the car and either loses tonnes of pace or throws the car off the track - even into a wall (Monaco, 2009). His overtaking is amateurish at best. He chucks the car past with abandon on the rare occasions he's able to make an attempt at all. He lacks Button's sense for the track positioning and smarts for getting past, and he lacks Lewis or Fernando's killer instinct - the warrior spirit which lets them blow past their competitors like conquerors on the march.

Offtrack, Vettel just rings false to me. In the same way I really like Jenson because he comes across a very genuine, likable guy and a pragmatic team player, Vettel is a false, arrogant primadonna.

There's some more, but I think you get the point.
#193254

lol thats got to be the most sh1te I've heard so far today, mind you there's still plenty time for more yet


yup and that didnt take long to beat!

Button is the ultimate race driver.


Are you on drugs? Untill last season Button had won one GP in his entire career (and TBH from what I remember of it it was down to luck too), fair enough he had a crap car but surely the ultimate race driver can get more from their cars than the "normal" race drivers and not finish last (if at all)

Untill last season I honestly though his name was Jenson ButtonDNF or Jenson Button18th as those letters were always behind his name
#193255
Button is the ultimate race driver.


Are you on drugs? Untill last season Button had won one GP in his entire career (and TBH from what I remember of it it was down to luck too), fair enough he had a crap car but surely the ultimate race driver can get more from their cars than the "normal" race drivers and not finish last (if at all)

Untill last season I honestly though his name was Jenson ButtonDNF or Jenson Button18th as those letters were always behind his name

Oh I see, so 1988-2006, those years just never happened? Only the years where Jenson was struggling huh? So only 2001, 2007 (And that's debatable, there was tonnes of evidence of Button's supremity on race day in 2007 if you cared to look) & 2008.

You people drive me up the wall with your historical revisionism. Just because it didn't happen to lead to an F1 Podium in the Lewis Era doesn't mean it didn't happen.
#193256

Number WDC's Vettle has - 0
Number of Times Vettle has overtaken for the win - 0
Number of Times Vettle has overtaken ever - 0

Number of WDC Buton has - 1
number of times button has overtaking for the win - 2 good ones i can think of
Number of times Button has overtaken ever - lots.


honestly if Webber slamed it past vettle at the start of Oz vettle would be on the team radio unsure of what to do next, as he dosn't understand the concept of an overtake.


This is wrong at so many levels. Do you honestly believe it?


I believe it.

Untill last season I honestly though his name was Jenson ButtonDNF or Jenson Button18th as those letters were always behind his name


That's because he was driving an awful, awful car.
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