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[antoniob]

Mclaren screwed Hamilton over.

The Common sense decision was to stay out on track. Simple.

I would have slapped that Whitmarsh across his face with a two by four for making a decision like that.

I wouldn't have, everyone makes mistakes. Whitmarsh has admitted it was a bad call. Whitmarsh probably makes a hell of a lot less mistakes than most people.

You think the team complain to the drivers just after they make a mistake and crash? What Lewis did was wrong, he should discuss it in private with his engineers after the race, whining during the race helps no one. All it would do is distract his focus on trying to get past Alonso. When Alonso spoke to his engineer he was clearly stressed, but still conveyed a useful message "I don't want to know" - in other words I'm aware Lewis is storming up to me and don't want you telling me that, I'll deal with it myself.

Lewis's tone was petulant and whiny.

What the hell? Formula 1 is a high adrenaline sport don't get it twisted.

Eh? Alright my grammar and stuff probably is incredibly shoddy, I'll reword then.

Lewis shouldn't have been whining over the radio, he should've got on with the race and talked about the decision after in private.

Apparently he wont have a radio next week. They have something else in mind.

[7UpJordan]

Apparently he wont have a radio next week. They have something else in mind.

One of these?

[vaptin]

I also forgot to mention this, getting laughed at by the ram kinda threw me out

Have heard Coultard and Brundle saying previously that ultimately the call is always with the driver whether to pit or not.

[antoniob]

Apparently he wont have a radio next week. They have something else in mind.

One of these?

They will be sorry, I tell ya.

[antoniob]

I also forgot to mention this, getting laughed at by the ram kinda threw me out

Have heard Coultard and Brundle saying previously that ultimately the call is always with the driver whether to pit or not.

In this case I'd agree. He wont need any fuel so if he felt he could carry on , who will stop him. the problem I think is he wants to be nurtured. he wants to be told what to do cos if the call was wrong he would have someone to blame.

[racechick]

From what I remember of the radio conversation he was told he would catch the ferrari's before the end of the race to which he replied "What theyre not pitting? Why did I pit then". Hardly suprising he was a little bemused by the decision since it was wrong and cost McLaren a one/two. But poo happens. A shame though after he drove such a fantastic race.

[LH1]

On here I have seen stupid remarks, yawning emoticons following a quoted post and taking the p*** out of peoples posts, people called muppets and someone wants to take Lewis's radio away and antoniob? Well no sense there.

Yet, many of these posters are the self same ones that are calling Lewis whinney and childish etc? yeah right!

[vaptin]

On here I have seen stupid remarks, yawning emoticons following a quoted post and taking the p*** out of peoples posts, people called muppets and someone wants to take Lewis's radio away and antoniob? Well no sense there.

Yet, many of these posters are the self same ones that are calling Lewis whinney and childish etc? yeah right!

So them being "whinney and childish" (please forgive me for assuming your not calling me "whinney and childish" means therefore that Lewis cannot have been whinney and childish?

[antoniob]

OH God. RC is out of hiding!!

[vaptin]

OH God. RC is out of hiding!!

it's a bit harsh that, racechick supports Lewis a lot but she doesn't blindly ignore his flaws, she just likes him alot regardless.

Edit, anyway I heard you where on holiday racechick?

[antoniob]

From what I remember of the radio conversation he was told he would catch the ferrari's before the end of the race to which he replied "What theyre not pitting? Why did I pit then". Hardly suprising he was a little bemused by the decision since it was wrong and cost McLaren a one/two. But poo happens. A shame though after he drove such a fantastic race.

Hello Anna. Good to have you back. I missed you. No as i understand it he complained about the tires before he pitted. so why ask crazy Q afterwards?

[f1ea]

No I did not say that Lewis was better than the team, the operative word here is 'team' and I feel he was let down by his team. I have never spoken out before, but I also think Lewis has been let down badly by these duff tyre change calls and this problem has been going on inside McLaren for some time. I do feel that the 2008 championship was nearly lost for Lewis on these tyre changes. When the refuelling was stopped and I knew pitting and winning was going to be down to these tyre changes it made me worry and that is a direct result of McLaren's history.

Lewis will get over this, it happens to all racing drivers and I agree with that, well it happens to the passionate ones anyhow and I really get fed up of people taking pot shots at him, they have been doing this from day 1 and it is getting a tad tedious now.

I also agree that Vettel should have had better in both races, I like Vettel but I think he lacks that winners hunger that drivers like Lewis, Shumacher, Alonso and Massa etc have. (IMHO of course)

I think you have forgotten that Mclaren RARELY miss a strategy and screw a driver's race. Sure, it can happen once in a while (and this tace WAS NOT one of those cases), but remember Lewis' championship winning season: Mclaren as a team (Heikki aside) were spotless regarding strategies... the same cannot be said about Ferrari's strategies and 'team' related mistakes and so on in the last couple of seasons...

So people take too many pot shots at Lewis??
I dont think so.
Again, i'll quote this one:

First donuts on a public road now whinning on the radio instead of driving, he still has some growing up to do. What other driver is still an impetuous punk after 3 years in the cockpit? I think they should take his radio away from him lol.

Anyone can say he is very fast. But he makes silly childish impetuous punk mistakes. That's what people take shots at. Its really nothing personal, he just gives people the material to slag him Sorry if you think he's flawless and he deserves a better team than McL.... but he isnt.

[antoniob]

On here I have seen stupid remarks, yawning emoticons following a quoted post and taking the p*** out of peoples posts, people called muppets and someone wants to take Lewis's radio away and antoniob? Well no sense there.

Yet, many of these posters are the self same ones that are calling Lewis whinney and childish etc? yeah right!

Thou shalt not use my name in vain..

[antoniob]

No I did not say that Lewis was better than the team, the operative word here is 'team' and I feel he was let down by his team. I have never spoken out before, but I also think Lewis has been let down badly by these duff tyre change calls and this problem has been going on inside McLaren for some time. I do feel that the 2008 championship was nearly lost for Lewis on these tyre changes. When the refuelling was stopped and I knew pitting and winning was going to be down to these tyre changes it made me worry and that is a direct result of McLaren's history.

Lewis will get over this, it happens to all racing drivers and I agree with that, well it happens to the passionate ones anyhow and I really get fed up of people taking pot shots at him, they have been doing this from day 1 and it is getting a tad tedious now.

I also agree that Vettel should have had better in both races, I like Vettel but I think he lacks that winners hunger that drivers like Lewis, Shumacher, Alonso and Massa etc have. (IMHO of course)

I think you have forgotten that Mclaren RARELY miss a strategy and screw a driver's race. Sure, it can happen once in a while (and this tace WAS NOT one of those cases), but remember Lewis' championship winning season: Mclaren as a team (Heikki aside) were spotless regarding strategies... the same cannot be said about Ferrari's strategies and 'team' related mistakes and so on in the last couple of seasons...

So people take too many pot shots at Lewis??
I dont think so.
Again, i'll quote this one:

First donuts on a public road now whinning on the radio instead of driving, he still has some growing up to do. What other driver is still an impetuous punk after 3 years in the cockpit? I think they should take his radio away from him lol.

Anyone can say he is very fast. But he makes silly childish impetuous punk mistakes. That's what people take shots at. Its really nothing personal, he just gives people the material to slag him Sorry if you think he's flawless and he deserves a better team than McL.... but he isnt.

Long post to quote but ... Very well said !!

[LH1]

On here I have seen stupid remarks, yawning emoticons following a quoted post and taking the p*** out of peoples posts, people called muppets and someone wants to take Lewis's radio away and antoniob? Well no sense there.

Yet, many of these posters are the self same ones that are calling Lewis whinney and childish etc? yeah right!

So them being "whinney and childish" (please forgive me for assuming your not calling me "whinney and childish" means therefore that Lewis cannot have been whinney and childish?

So Lewis complained so what? The team made a bad call and he said so, what is the big deal? Why should he conform to what others expect him to do? The adrenalin pumping, people do say things, shows he cares, shows he wants to win, what is the problem? Why is ASKING why he was pitted seen as whining? he asked a question, he is the one out there putting his life at risk, I think he is entitled to ask.
Seems to me people on here just want to call him just for the sake of it, if he did start conforming to *your* ideas of what he should and should not do, who would you have to pick on then?

Go admit it, you would all be gutted to lose your scapegoat.

No he did NOT complain about the tyres before he pitted.