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[7UpJordan]

Quoted from a Williams forum I post on...

Those who don't subscribe to Autosport might be interested in this headline on the latest cover.

The main quote from the article is: 'It wasn't that Williams didn't believe in Rosberg's talent or intelligence, just that there was a feeling he didn't apply them relentlessly enough'.

It suggests Frank Williams was particularly disappointed with Nico's Monaco performance and he asked what went wrong in the second stint. Nico replied something like, 'this is Monaco, you can't go flat out all the time'.

SFW was not impressed, since he had the impression Massa and Webber did just that to overhaul Nico.

Another quote:

'Rosberg was strong-minded and super confident, but sometimes those traits were used to justify less than full effort.'

The same article has an interesting aside from Jock Clear. 'Rubens and Jacques had an intuitive feeling if something was wrong. They could tell if something was not quite right and then say, 'You can look at the data if you want', whereas Nico wants to plough through the data with you.'

Well, it was what all of us were thinking here...as PH said "The Boutsen sitaution again"

Well that doesn't surprise me in the least. Patrick Head should now rename it "The Nico Rosberg situation" because unlike Rosberg, Boutsen had 3 wins and a pole position during his time at Williams... and he never had problems with his visor either, because 2 of those races were in wet conditions!

[Jensonb]

My reaction to the topic title:

"Because he's an overrated nobody?"

Anywho, the actual point here...Yeah I can buy that. He's never struck me as single-minded in the same way you can tell the likes of Lewis, JB, Schumi, Alonso and even Kimi are. With Nico it always seems like he just sort of shows up and expects things to happen.

[texasmr2]

Anyone who knows Franks outlook realizes that his drivers are only a path to his ultimate goal and that is becoming the WCC. I've been paying attention to Frank since the early 1980's and his goal has not wavered one bit, it is all about the constructors championship and nothing more.

[Gaz]

Anyone who knows Franks outlook realizes that his drivers are only a path to his ultimate goal and that is becoming the WCC. I've been paying attention to Frank since the early 1980's and his goal has not wavered one bit, it is all about the constructors championship and nothing more.

nah they need two strong drivers for the WCC Nico was above average but Kazuki was shocklingly bad.

[7UpJordan]

nah they need two strong drivers for the WCC Nico was above average but Kazuki was shocklingly bad.

Even Jean Louis Schlesser would have managed at least 1 points finish in the FW31... maybe even Luca Badoer as well.

[texasmr2]

Anyone who knows Franks outlook realizes that his drivers are only a path to his ultimate goal and that is becoming the WCC. I've been paying attention to Frank since the early 1980's and his goal has not wavered one bit, it is all about the constructors championship and nothing more.

nah they need two strong drivers for the WCC Nico was above average but Kazuki was shocklingly bad.

Wait a second ! I never mentioned anything about Nico NOT being worthy of carrying the Williams mantle I only stated the outlook of what is most important to Frank so you lost me.

[Gaz]

Williams should never of gone with Toyota.

Too many strings attached like the fact they had to give a drive to Crashajima.

They have the best lineup now since 2006

[texasmr2]

Williams should never of gone with Toyota.

It was a sweet deal and just because it did not reach the fruition that was hoped for does not mean it was a bad decision. It kept one of the last true independent teams alive for another season.

Too many strings attached like the fact they had to give a drive to Crashajima.

In todays economy and with all the financial restrictions imposed upon F1 only an idiot would not have taken the deal.

They have the best lineup now since 2006

They have or had? Time to move on and realize thank change is either immediately realized in a positive aspect or takes some time.

[Rivelution]

Too many strings attached like the fact they had to give a drive to Crashajima.

In todays economy and with all the financial restrictions imposed upon F1 only an idiot would not have taken the deal.

Yes, but I think they made that decision before the economy went in the shitter.

[texasmr2]

Too many strings attached like the fact they had to give a drive to Crashajima.

In todays economy and with all the financial restrictions imposed upon F1 only an idiot would not have taken the deal.

Yes, but I think they made that decision before the economy went in the shitter.

They made that decision for economical reasons and the economy was in the shitter already (unless you missed the initial s***), do you honestly believe that Williams F1 has survived for so long without being privy to financial/economical windfalls and downfalls?

[Jensonb]

Williams should never of gone with Toyota.

Too many strings attached like the fact they had to give a drive to Crashajima.

They have the best lineup now since 2006

Williams never should have let BMW get away. That was their biggest mistake. It lost them Button, it sent them into the arms of the then-hopeless Cosworth unit and that led them to the Faustian bargain with Toyota.

[Gaz]

Too many strings attached like the fact they had to give a drive to Crashajima.

In todays economy and with all the financial restrictions imposed upon F1 only an idiot would not have taken the deal.

Yes, but I think they made that decision before the economy went in the shitter.

yep and there primary income is their main sponsors which is AT&T & Phillips.

They can obviously afford drivers and engines so it was a bad idea.

[Rivelution]

Too many strings attached like the fact they had to give a drive to Crashajima.

In todays economy and with all the financial restrictions imposed upon F1 only an idiot would not have taken the deal.

Yes, but I think they made that decision before the economy went in the shitter.

They made that decision for economical reasons and the economy was in the shitter already (unless you missed the initial s***), do you honestly believe that Williams F1 has survived for so long without being privy to financial/economical windfalls and downfalls?

I'm aware that they probably made that decision for economical reasons, but they made the decision to go with Toyota engines in what? Late '06, early '07? Correct me if I'm wrong (I was in high school during this time, and didn't really pay attention to the news), but I'm pretty sure the economy wasn't in the shitter during that time frame.

[Jensonb]

Too many strings attached like the fact they had to give a drive to Crashajima.

In todays economy and with all the financial restrictions imposed upon F1 only an idiot would not have taken the deal.

Yes, but I think they made that decision before the economy went in the shitter.

They made that decision for economical reasons and the economy was in the shitter already (unless you missed the initial s***), do you honestly believe that Williams F1 has survived for so long without being privy to financial/economical windfalls and downfalls?

I'm aware that they probably made that decision for economical reasons, but they made the decision to go with Toyota engines in what? Late '06, early '07? Correct me if I'm wrong (I was in high school during this time, and didn't really pay attention to the news), but I'm pretty sure the economy wasn't in the shitter during that time frame.

In fact, it was in the midst (Admittedly, the dying days of) a boom.

[texasmr2]

Too many strings attached like the fact they had to give a drive to Crashajima.

In todays economy and with all the financial restrictions imposed upon F1 only an idiot would not have taken the deal.

Yes, but I think they made that decision before the economy went in the shitter.

They made that decision for economical reasons and the economy was in the shitter already (unless you missed the initial s***), do you honestly believe that Williams F1 has survived for so long without being privy to financial/economical windfalls and downfalls?

I'm aware that they probably made that decision for economical reasons, but they made the decision to go with Toyota engines in what? Late '06, early '07? Correct me if I'm wrong (I was in high school during this time, and didn't really pay attention to the news), but I'm pretty sure the economy wasn't in the shitter during that time frame.

In fact, it was in the midst (Admittedly, the dying days of) a boom.