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#191247
Webber: Mandatory pitstops not enough

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82311

By Jonathan Noble Tuesday, March 23rd 2010, 11:31 GMT

Jenson Button, Mark Webber, Bahrain GPFormula 1 chiefs need to go much further than just tweaking tyre rules or making pitstops mandatory if they are going to make the racing more exciting.

That is the view of Red Bull Racing's Mark Webber, who thinks that wide scale changes are going to be needed to make overtaking easier - after confessing he was 'shocked' at how difficult it now is get past someone with the 2010 generation of cars.

With F1 under the spotlight after a less than thrilling season opener in Bahrain, Webber believes the sport needs to find a way back to allow drivers to battle each other – something he thinks is now impossible.

"I think we can have as many pitstops as we want, but people want action on the track – and so do the drivers," Webber told AUTOSPORT in the build-up to his home race in Australia.

"That is the thing we have been trying to solve for lots of years, but if you watch a touring car race – they are not passing each other every lap.

"I think the balance of the last few years was right – you don't want an IRL race where they are passing each other 10 times a lap, you want a move that if it sticks it is very good and it is a quality move with a lot of respect between two drivers."

He added: "The thing that disappointed me the most in Bahrain was I expected it [overtaking] to be tough, but there wasn't even a chance, not a sniff, of getting something. That was the biggest shock – it was like bloody hell!

"When Jenson [Button] got to Michael [Schumacher] I thought he might have a chance, because he has got a good top speed advantage, and Jenson knows how to overtake – but it wasn't easy.

"That was just the surprise to me – not having even a sniff. In the past you got a few sniffs here and there and you could maybe have a crack, but it was a different ballgame in Bahrain."

Webber does not believe that the spectacle in Melbourne, or in Malaysia next weekend, will be much better than was witnessed in the first race of the season.

"I think it will be similar to Bahrain," he said. "Unfortunately this is the way that races are. I think people will stop at a similar time, and that is the fastest way to do the races.

"In Malaysia it is even longer for us to do a pitstop, with the pitlane being longer, so all those types of things mean you don't want to be spending much time in the pitlane because you can't have a light car and explode by doing a short strategy to try and get ahead of somebody.

"Maybe with Michael I could have done something different last week, but you have fewer options. It is the same for everybody and that is the way it is. So people are covering off how to do the race so they don't lose positions, and that means where you qualify is very important."

When asked if there was a fear of the situation being repeated for the remaining races of the season, he said: "I don't think it will happen for 18 races. I think we will find ways....it is a learning curve for all of us.

"All of us had a fair idea of how the races might go, but you are never sure until you actually get the gloves off in terms of how people will really do their race.

"People might have a different opinion this weekend on Sunday about how they might do it, and might think, 'let's do it differently.' We can only think what we are thinking."

World champion Jenson Button thinks all of F1's stakeholders need to get together and sort out a solution to the problem if the entertainment factor does not improve in the next few grands prix.

"The last race was not the most exciting from a fans point of view, but I think we can improve it, and it takes all of us to look at what happened and not get too worried about it," he said in Australia.

"We hope that this race is better, and we can look at this race and the one in Malaysia…we can't just point fingers – we all need to work on improving the spectacle if it is not there."
#191248
Webber: Mandatory pitstops not enough

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82311

By Jonathan Noble Tuesday, March 23rd 2010, 11:31 GMT

That is the view of Red Bull Racing's Mark Webber, who thinks that wide scale changes are going to be needed to make overtaking easier - after confessing he was 'shocked' at how difficult it now is get past someone with the 2010 generation of cars.



Exactly Mark, its a recipe for processions, those here who don't agree are just in denial
#191259
How boring was Bahrain?

No refueling, no overtaking, no second guessing fuel loads, no pit tactics (limited pit tactics). Previous years we would always wonder what fuel loads drivers were on, 2 stops or 3 stops?? Now we just watch them run around burning a full tank of fuel.

Dull and boring.........I actually fell asleep!

I really hope something changes because this will be the biggest let down to what promised to be the most exciting season yet!

Please tell me this is a bad dream!


2010 rule changes :thumbdown:


IMHO below my take on this:

- First and most important... was just one race, how many boring races did we have last year? many, and people complained the same, so what makes different last years complaints with this one?
- Refueling: I agree with no refueling, I want to see drivers racing and overtaking, not race won due to a fast pit crew. Anyway how much guessing really was about refueling? lap times were a clear indication of the strategy. There was anything I dislike the most to see someone overtaking other on the pit... maybe is just me.
- Think tyre regulations are silly, teams should be allowed to use whatever tire suits better their car, the same way they decide the aerodynamics they should decide on tires.
- The point systems needs a real update. This year refresh was to allow mas cars on the track, not to overcome the point systems limitation. Points for leading, points for fast lap,.. I am NOT a NASCAR fan, but they have something interesting that FIA should look into it.
#191486
If you find it boring don't watch.

Try it.

I'ma go ahead and call :bs: on that buddy.
#191491
If you find it boring don't watch.

Try it.

I'ma go ahead and call :bs: on that buddy.


Nah, he has point.

Not really. It makes sense in theory, falls flat in reality. You can't know it's still boring without watching it, and people who would be using this forum are fans of the sport who will naturally have some other attachment to it, eg. support of team, sentimentality etc.

It's a broken argument.
#191495
Not really. It makes sense in theory, falls flat in reality. You can't know it's still boring without watching it, and people who would be using this forum are fans of the sport who will naturally have some other attachment to it, eg. support of team, sentimentality etc.

It's a broken argument.


My dad used to be massive on F1 when i was a kid, ie 80's and most of the 90's... now he basically never watches as he thinks it's boring. Point proven, methinks! :wavey:

edit - hell, i didn't bother watching ANY of the '02 season as it was boring to me!! :shock:
#191949
I like many others eagerly awaited the first race of the 2010 season. I fell asleep halfway through the race.
I think the only answer is to ban the front and rear wings, less downforce less turbulent air means closer racing more overtaking.
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