- 22 Mar 10, 02:05#191018
As in... bowel movements (ie you being familiar with them, and not with celibacy vows and stuff)
it was just a cheap shot at you...... 
The same happens with Dr. (ie shrinks and so on).
As for the church having to forgive the sin... that is the church's stand on sin and cofession. If the person broke a law, then it is the duty of the law system to seek due punishment. The whole purpose of confession is to seek forgiveness... in other words, something to make the sinner feel better and go on and have better sleep
There are some sins the church does not forgive, such as abortion and maybe some others (don't know exactly which, but i would think child abuse should be right up there).
you're saying the CLUB is doing such things... in this case, it is not the church doing such things. It's individuals.
If you're a member of Forumula1.com and some of its members were... meat eaters. Would you leave Forumula1.com because you don't like people eating meat?
I'm surprised the church does not have an equally fierce stand against child abusing as it does against abortion... although, what is worse? abortion or child abuse? What would be sensible punishment for either?
Gladly, I'm not the one to judge.
wtf
As in... bowel movements (ie you being familiar with them, and not with celibacy vows and stuff)
it was just a cheap shot at you...... In very severe cases, Brunner said, the church would report abuse to authorities if the victim agreed. That’s a policy the church here has consistently towed the line on.
If a priest were to admit abuse during confession, Brunner says it would remain secret. “The sacramental seal must not be broken,” he said.
Brunner said canon law stipulates penalties for all crimes committed by priests. “If the priest is improving, if he repents, you can waive the penalty.”
The same happens with Dr. (ie shrinks and so on).
As for the church having to forgive the sin... that is the church's stand on sin and cofession. If the person broke a law, then it is the duty of the law system to seek due punishment. The whole purpose of confession is to seek forgiveness... in other words, something to make the sinner feel better and go on and have better sleep
There are some sins the church does not forgive, such as abortion and maybe some others (don't know exactly which, but i would think child abuse should be right up there). If I was in a club of atheists (yes they exist) and that club would do such things, yes, I would leave that club. Nowhere did I say people should give up their belief in whatever (or give up sending their kids to daycare centers) However, they should change their affiliation and go to another club of similar common interest or indeed rethink their belief system at such an opportunity and draw conclusions.
you're saying the CLUB is doing such things... in this case, it is not the church doing such things. It's individuals.
If you're a member of Forumula1.com and some of its members were... meat eaters. Would you leave Forumula1.com because you don't like people eating meat?
I'm surprised the church does not have an equally fierce stand against child abusing as it does against abortion... although, what is worse? abortion or child abuse? What would be sensible punishment for either?
Gladly, I'm not the one to judge.
Came out fighting indeed.
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