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[CanadianF1Fan]

The race was a letdown for me. I really, really want refueling back. It adds another dynamic to the race, and makes races much more strategical. I liked how a driver starting 13th could finish 6th because they were on a long 1 stop strategy. It was always intriguing to see a situation like the following:

1. Jenson Button is in 3rd place, trailing Lewis Hamilton in 2nd by a few seconds.
2. Lewis pits and comes out in 7th.
3. Button pushes and pushes for another few laps after Lewis pits.
4. Button pits.
5. Because of the hard pushing, Button comes out in front of Lewis in 7th place after exiting the pit lane.

We're not going to see something like that anymore, and it's very disappointing.

On a side note, is it possible for the FIA and FOTA to reintroduce refueling mid-season? Maybe if the first few races are a real bore, they'll reintroduce refueling for Barcelona.

really can't see that happening,

It's unlikely, I know. It's going to cost some money, and it would also be a PR disaster for F1. Then again, we'll get better racing because of it.

If the FIA really wanted to, they could easily reintroduce refueling mid-season. We'll see what happens.

[vaptin]

I think banning the DDD will have a bigger effect.

[Rivelution]

I'm sorry but you're watching the wrong sport if all you care about is overtaking. If you want to see a hundred meaningless overtakes you should be watching NASCAR, not F1. The whole point of F1 is to build the fastest car to a set of regulations and cross the finish line first, overtaking is a by-product of this.

Sure there are some boring races, but there also some great races. I cant think of one sport where every single game, meet, race, whatever is exciting. So if you find yourself bored after F1 races because there 'isn't enough overtaking,' then I suggest you find something else to watch, because frankly I'm tired of seeing people whine and moan about 'the lack of overtaking.

[Frosty]

That was one boring race, how anybody thought the whole field trundling around nursing there tyres was gonna improve the show is beyond me, I was against "no refueling" from the start, aerodynamics don't help either, quite a few cases of people catching somebody up and then dropping back because it was impossible to pass.

Congrates to the new boys too, Not as slow as was feared, 3 sec on a long track, not too shabby.

yep me too

i still think kers should be mandatory and the boost be longer/more hp, its the only way with this new aero that we will get any overtaking once your close

One problem with KERS is that it's so expensive.

[ivey]

Did anybody understand how Lewis managed to get in front of Rosberg while he pitted two or three laps earlier?

[al4x]

That was one boring race, how anybody thought the whole field trundling around nursing there tyres was gonna improve the show is beyond me, I was against "no refueling" from the start, aerodynamics don't help either, quite a few cases of people catching somebody up and then dropping back because it was impossible to pass.

Congrates to the new boys too, Not as slow as was feared, 3 sec on a long track, not too shabby.

yep me too

i still think kers should be mandatory and the boost be longer/more hp, its the only way with this new aero that we will get any overtaking once your close

One problem with KERS is that it's so expensive.

wouldnt be so bad if it was a standard one, would be more expensive but worth it i think

[FerrariFan63]

We'll find out more at other races. But I'm not optimistic. Someone further up in the thread said that if Lewis had caught up to the Ferraris, then we might have seen some action. But, Jenson caught up to Michael, and Mark was in there, and Michael was catching up to Nico, but once they're in the dirty air they just get stuck there.

Banning refueling would be OK if the regulations are changed to make overtaking easier. But now we have no refueling, and cars that can't overtake. Instant snoozefest.

And I suspect we've got several more snoozefests coming up.

Did anybody understand how Lewis managed to get in front of Rosberg while he pitted two or three laps earlier?

They had to hold Rosberg in the pits while another car went past his pit.

[vaptin]

F1 is about the fastest car, not the faster car being stuck behind a slower one and can't get too close to the slower one because the dirty air will ruin their car.

Did you see how fast Alonso went once Vettle's car broke? I don't think Alonso would've got ahead otherwise.

[al4x]

my personal summation


1. they are all the same weight, [due to no refueling]
it was hard enough last year overtaking a car slower and heavier than you, now the weight differential is gone

2. no kers
alot of overtakes last year were due to this, with all cars running very similar power now it takes too long to get close to the slip stream

3. having to baby the tyres
if you push too hard with the tyres you may maybe get a place but then you may loose time every lap for over half the race

4. poor overtaking aero
as lat year, cars get slowed down as they approach another, rosberg even didnt get close to vettel and he had a significant power disadvantage

5. having to make components last longer
again, you can push this race, and you may make up a place, but if youre engione say then goes onto fail, youve lost possibly 10 places later in the season

6. no fuel differences in quali..
it produces a more true grid, but the fastest cars will always be up the front, and the established teams rarely break down.. many line a stern team finishes in store

edt
7 no refueling
1 stop is almost always going to be better than 2.. less strategy, less chance for a lower performing team to steal some points via tactics.. more babying tyres lol
im sure there are more, but to me this is what stands out

all these give less overtakes, you have to baby the car, taking a chance at one place is JUST NOT WORTH IT :/

[racechick]

Did anybody understand how Lewis managed to get in front of Rosberg while he pitted two or three laps earlier?

Easy. Now pitting earlier is quicker because you dont refuel and get heavier and you come out on new tyres which make you go quicker. Also Button got in Rosbergs way in the pits.

[racechick]

Top drivers disappointed about the situation. Schumi, Lewis, Alonso said its a procession.

[Cubejam]

I think it's stupid to blame the new rules. Very stupid. Bahrain has NEVER been an exciting race, it has always been like this.
There was plenty of excitement, you just didn't pay attention.

It's not the rules that bore you its the fact F1 cars have become so modern! Short braking distances & double diffusers are the problem.
If anything there's too much emphasis on aerodynamic downforce rather than mechanical grip.

Low downforce & high mechanical grip is what F1 needs.

[racechick]

Well I did pay attention but i saw the potential for some poor racing as did many others in F1, and they've come out and said so.
I agree with you that less aero downforce and more mechanical grip is the way to go but they screwed that up when they let the diffusers in...and we're stuck with them for another year; in the interim, something may need to be done, we'll see, lets hope it gets better.

[7UpJordan]

I think it's stupid to blame the new rules. Very stupid. Bahrain has NEVER been an exciting race, it has always been like this.
There was plenty of excitement, you just didn't pay attention.

It's not the rules that bore you its the fact F1 cars have become so modern! Short braking distances & double diffusers are the problem.
If anything there's too much emphasis on aerodynamic downforce rather than mechanical grip.

Low downforce & high mechanical grip is what F1 needs.

What we need is for cars to look like this again;

[Gaz]

lol we can't live in the 80s forever.

Bahrain wasn't boring for me, but it wasn't an exciting race like Brazil last year for example.

But then again last year's Bahrain there was Lewis's Magic start then Jenson Button out breaking him then thats it.

I can't think of anything else that was exciting about it.

The year before that was just as boring with LH hitting the back of Nando then getting stuck at the back.