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By deMuRe
#185480
I am positive Lewis will be quicker. Jenson might do a better job of looking after his tires and bringing the car home but to be honest he hasn't shown much ability to drive round a handling or setup problem in the past either. I can't recall too many occasions where Hamilton has complained about such problems during a race or weekend so I would assume that Hamilton is not fazed by adopting his driving style to suit the car.
It will certainly be interesting and i think Button has a genuine chance of outscoring Hamilton over the course of the seaon but i would be very surprised if Hamilton wasn't the faster ultimately of the two.


:clap:

Lewis will be much faster, Jenson B is in the same bucket as Jacques Villuenerve and Damon Hill, only won cause their car was so good. Jenson can't drive around problems, Lewis can.
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By texasmr2
#185489
Lewis may very well be quicker over a certain number of lap's as he is very aggressive yet that could be his downfall pertaining to results. That is one of the reasons he wears out his tires so fast, he wants to be the quickest aswell as the fastest lap on every lap. Lewis may be the quickest driver at a certain point but he is by no means the most mature driver when compared to Jenson.
I hope they have a great battle between them but I'm not gonna fold my hand and agree that Lewis will come out on top, frankly I hope JB beats him in every category. :wavey:
By Ineluke
#185525
First off, I'm not a Jenson fan, one doesn't have to be to argue against you.

Second off, you [ram] missed my point, its testing and the times are really not worth much- its about data, feedback from the car, setting up, drivers getting used to the new cars etc.

You seem to want to demand and use this as evidence that Lewis is "winning", my analogy with the Ferrari's topping time in Valencia was to try and point out to you that these times don't just suddenly become significant as soon as Hamilton comes top. If you want to say who out of Jenson and Lewis is better at this stage you should try and find out whose feedback is more helpful to developing and making the car faster.



That's easy,Lewis has had a very big hand in development of the car,it's been going on since last year so that's an easy answer. As it stands now Jenson is getting the car ready or should i say his car ready for his style of driving. Yes he is helping with testing and so is Lewis but be in no doubt that Lewis has had more input into the car than Jenson has.

Now, to be fair to Jenson it is obvious why he hasn't had the same amount input into the car as lewis,it's because he has only just signed for McLaren.

They are both giving plenty of feedback,remember they are in the same team,they want a championship winning car.

As for who will come out on top, the talking will be done on the track.

Their will come a time when no excuses can be made,then we can come back here and sink the knife in deeper. :rofl:
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By cap-dude
#185530
The one thing I'd worry about for Hamilton, is that I remember once when he said he tried to save the tyres, and he dropped a lot of time trying to do that. There is a question mark over that. I mean, I doubt anyone forgets Turkey 07 and Hungary 08. 2009 as well, I think it was Spain that saw Hamilton on a one stop strategy and then fail to look after the tyres.

But we'll just have to wait and see what happens. We can only guess at this point.
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By Jensonb
#185550
That's easy,Lewis has had a very big hand in development of the car,it's been going on since last year so that's an easy answer. As it stands now Jenson is getting the car ready or should i say his car ready for his style of driving. Yes he is helping with testing and so is Lewis but be in no doubt that Lewis has had more input into the car than Jenson has.

Now, to be fair to Jenson it is obvious why he hasn't had the same amount input into the car as lewis,it's because he has only just signed for McLaren.

They are both giving plenty of feedback,remember they are in the same team,they want a championship winning car.

As for who will come out on top, the talking will be done on the track.

Their will come a time when no excuses can be made,then we can come back here and sink the knife in deeper. :rofl:

Pass. You feel free though, it's just...The rest of us are civilised.
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By headless
#185628
The truth is that Lewis a is a better driver and i think that he will be much faster

Thanks borg.
I trust you and I will definately be able to sleep tonight now, thanks.
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By Jensonb
#185635
The truth is that Lewis a is a better driver and i think that he will be much faster

Thanks borg.
I trust you and I will definately be able to sleep tonight now, thanks.

Resistance is futile, after all.
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By darwin dali
#185724
The truth is that Lewis a is a better driver and i think that he will be much faster

Thanks borg.
I trust you and I will definately be able to sleep tonight now, thanks.

Resistance is futile, after all.

You will be assimilated :P
By The Ram
#185793
First off, I'm not a Jenson fan, one doesn't have to be to argue against you.

Second off, you [ram] missed my point, its testing and the times are really not worth much- its about data, feedback from the car, setting up, drivers getting used to the new cars etc.

You seem to want to demand and use this as evidence that Lewis is "winning", my analogy with the Ferrari's topping time in Valencia was to try and point out to you that these times don't just suddenly become significant as soon as Hamilton comes top. If you want to say who out of Jenson and Lewis is better at this stage you should try and find out whose feedback is more helpful to developing and making the car faster.


Forget about Ferrari.. Ferrari is a different car and different program.
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By Jensonb
#185813
First off, I'm not a Jenson fan, one doesn't have to be to argue against you.

Second off, you [ram] missed my point, its testing and the times are really not worth much- its about data, feedback from the car, setting up, drivers getting used to the new cars etc.

You seem to want to demand and use this as evidence that Lewis is "winning", my analogy with the Ferrari's topping time in Valencia was to try and point out to you that these times don't just suddenly become significant as soon as Hamilton comes top. If you want to say who out of Jenson and Lewis is better at this stage you should try and find out whose feedback is more helpful to developing and making the car faster.


Forget about Ferrari.. Ferrari is a different car and different program.

Read before replying, the man's point is perfectly valid.
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By Hexagram
#185830
How about 109 points each with 8 wins split down the middle? :hehe:
By The Ram
#185840
First off, I'm not a Jenson fan, one doesn't have to be to argue against you.

Second off, you [ram] missed my point, its testing and the times are really not worth much- its about data, feedback from the car, setting up, drivers getting used to the new cars etc.

You seem to want to demand and use this as evidence that Lewis is "winning", my analogy with the Ferrari's topping time in Valencia was to try and point out to you that these times don't just suddenly become significant as soon as Hamilton comes top. If you want to say who out of Jenson and Lewis is better at this stage you should try and find out whose feedback is more helpful to developing and making the car faster.


Forget about Ferrari.. Ferrari is a different car and different program.

Read before replying, the man's point is perfectly valid.


As soon as Hamilton was on top of what? .........top of the times list which contains the times of other teams...........

Ah you see.. he was talking about being on top of the other teams, that is why I replied forget about Ferrari (or whichever team). I wasn't even getting excited over that fact that Hamilton was on top of the charts, above other teams. Nooooooe, I was not even watching that. :nono: This was always been about Jensen VS Hamilton.

The rest:

whose feedback is more helpful to developing and making the car faster


... :)

Hmm...too easy.. lets leave that for later in the year...hehe..


Anyway, what I was doing is just a simple interpretation.. it is just what I think* is happening.

Something similar to this.

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/02/t ... -might-be/

But anyway lets forget about that, OK. It is obvious that you guys do not want to discuss the test times and you are turning me into a Button basher so I will leave it at that. Lets wait till Bahrain.
By vaptin
#185852
My point was the times aren't really significant - even with intra team battles.

I don't know what feeback Jenson and Hamilton have given during testing but I feel this is the most important part for the driver, testing to see how well certain things work on the car then making suggestions on how to improve.
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By Jensonb
#185881
As soon as Hamilton was on top of what? .........top of the times list which contains the times of other teams...........

Ah you see.. he was talking about being on top of the other teams, that is why I replied forget about Ferrari (or whichever team). I wasn't even getting excited over that fact that Hamilton was on top of the charts, above other teams. Nooooooe, I was not even watching that. :nono: This was always been about Jensen VS Hamilton.

Okay, so it's pretty clear you're an idiot, so Im just going to ignore you now, but for the love of god:

It's JENSON not JENSEN
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