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By LifeW12
#185150
Dont give all that angular shizz. One of the best F1 cars of all time was "angular" Image


That car was good from the front, ugly from side on.
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By Jensonb
#185225
It's not the angles that concern me, it's the apparent bulk...


...and those seemingly huge sidepod air ducts...


Can't see your fascination with duct size... Who says they have to be small?


Mr Aerodynamic Efficiency does!

:yes:

Big gaping holes = bad news for aerodynamics!
By Cubejam
#185347
I dislike the Force India greatly. The fin looks like its been stuck on... without any kind of flow or design.... I know that isnt the case but it looks that way. I hate the livery still.. even more disgusting than last year... cant be worse than 2008 though.
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By darwin dali
#185354
I dislike the Force India greatly. The fin looks like its been stuck on... without any kind of flow or design.... I know that isnt the case but it looks that way. I hate the livery still.. even more disgusting than last year... cant be worse than 2008 though.


Gee, tell us what you really think!
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By Frosty
#185367
It's not the angles that concern me, it's the apparent bulk...


...and those seemingly huge sidepod air ducts...


Can't see your fascination with duct size... Who says they have to be small?


Mr Aerodynamic Efficiency does!

:yes:

Big gaping holes = bad news for aerodynamics!

Aero efficiency is king
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By cap-dude
#185369
^^^Not so much from what I read. :wink:
Every circuit has an aerodynamic efficiency to drag ratio. If you beat that ratio you go quicker, if your car falls below that ratio you will struggle. Generally you will design a car to perform on the majority of tracks and ignore high-downforce extremes, like Hungary and Monaco, and low-downforce extremes, like Monza.


I get the feeling from the interview with Otmar Szafnauer of Force India that FI enjoyed their advantage on tracks like Monza and Spa. So they're looking to do something similar this year.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81521

Suppose it's not a bad idea if you want to have a break-through win or a handful of podiums for the sake of attention. Worked nicely last year.
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By hypertek
#185375
i think alot of the cars look good this year.. im a mclaren fan but as far as looks go, i dont think its the best looking car.. Yeah the renault, force india, and lotus cars are really good looking cars in my opinion. I disliked the ING renault era.
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By scotty
#185378
^^^Not so much from what I read. :wink:
Every circuit has an aerodynamic efficiency to drag ratio. If you beat that ratio you go quicker, if your car falls below that ratio you will struggle. Generally you will design a car to perform on the majority of tracks and ignore high-downforce extremes, like Hungary and Monaco, and low-downforce extremes, like Monza.


That quote merely confirms the point that aero efficiency is a key element of a good car...
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By cap-dude
#185380
^^^Not so much from what I read. :wink:
Every circuit has an aerodynamic efficiency to drag ratio. If you beat that ratio you go quicker, if your car falls below that ratio you will struggle. Generally you will design a car to perform on the majority of tracks and ignore high-downforce extremes, like Hungary and Monaco, and low-downforce extremes, like Monza.


That quote merely confirms the point that aero efficiency is a key element of a good car...

I assumed it meant aerodynamic efficiency was half the battle. Not saying it's not a key element.

Also, I'd mentioned about car wheelbases before. Apparently the the wheelbases don't differ too much. With McLaren and Ferrari having the longest, Red Bull somewhere in the middle and Virgin having the shortest. But details are scarce. But none the less it will make somewhat of the difference between the cars from race to race this year.

Still a while till the first race though. 24 days seems such a long time to wait.
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By Frosty
#185650
^^^Not so much from what I read. :wink:
Every circuit has an aerodynamic efficiency to drag ratio. If you beat that ratio you go quicker, if your car falls below that ratio you will struggle. Generally you will design a car to perform on the majority of tracks and ignore high-downforce extremes, like Hungary and Monaco, and low-downforce extremes, like Monza.


That quote merely confirms the point that aero efficiency is a key element of a good car...

I assumed it meant aerodynamic efficiency was half the battle. Not saying it's not a key element.

Also, I'd mentioned about car wheelbases before. Apparently the the wheelbases don't differ too much. With McLaren and Ferrari having the longest, Red Bull somewhere in the middle and Virgin having the shortest. But details are scarce. But none the less it will make somewhat of the difference between the cars from race to race this year.

Still a while till the first race though. 24 days seems such a long time to wait.
I'm pretty sure with the engine freeze aerodynamics is the biggest expenditure within F1 development the only exception might of been KERS last year which cost pretty much the same as the new teams budgets. So in my opinion in modern F1 aero efficiency is king to building the best car, just look at the Brawn last year the car was very aero efficient at a lot of circuits so it won the championship. The Red Bull was also very aerodynamically efficient so it won many races on the other hand the MP4-24 at the start of the season was about as aerodynamic as a dustbin so it was s***. Putting down force on a car is easy, putting on down force on a car without causing drag is hard hence why aerodynamic efficiency is so important.
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By headless
#185659
Erm... yeah thats why he said "i just photoshopped this"

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