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#184858
Massa will have got the car set up the first afternoon you have to assume,


lol, who needs all this pre-season testing stuff anyway when they can set the car up in one day.
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#184859
[quote="Gilles 27"] Massa will have got the car set up the first afternoon you have to assume,

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</BR>lol, who needs all this pre-season testing stuff anyway when they can set the car up in one day.[/quote]

One thing is to set the car up, and a whole other bussiness entirely is to:
1) Calibrate their wind tunnel and cfd data
2) Fuel consumption
3) Tire wear
4) Reliability
Among a million other things they do at testing...
#184877
I wouldn't normally draw any conclusions from testing tbh but i thought the immediacy with which Alonso eclipsed Massa best time of the previous two days at Valencia was quite remarkable. Massa will have got the car set up the first afternoon you have to assume, and while he may not have set his fastest lap on a low fuel run, it would seem unlikely that he had more than 20 laps of fuel in the car. Alonso was faster than Massa before lunchtime on his first day in the car, using Massa's setup and in fact his first Massa beating time came in the middle of 30 lap run, so with at least 15 laps of fuel onboard. He then proceded to go even faster in the afternoon, presumably once he had set up the car to his liking rather than Massa's


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each day with more rubber on the track times are bound to come down. I wouldnt read anything what so ever into the Valencia times by Massa and Alonso to see who is faster.


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#184892
For the record I was making an attempt to show sarcasm. Ferrari has probably been making setup changes every single day since the start of testing.

setup is the term used for getting the car suited to a particular track.
#184894
I wouldn't normally draw any conclusions from testing tbh but i thought the immediacy with which Alonso eclipsed Massa best time of the previous two days at Valencia was quite remarkable. Massa will have got the car set up the first afternoon you have to assume, and while he may not have set his fastest lap on a low fuel run, it would seem unlikely that he had more than 20 laps of fuel in the car. Alonso was faster than Massa before lunchtime on his first day in the car, using Massa's setup and in fact his first Massa beating time came in the middle of 30 lap run, so with at least 15 laps of fuel onboard. He then proceded to go even faster in the afternoon, presumably once he had set up the car to his liking rather than Massa's


:yes:


each day with more rubber on the track times are bound to come down. I wouldnt read anything what so ever into the Valencia times by Massa and Alonso to see who is faster.


Right. I've said a few times, it doesn't really matter which of the two is 'actually' faster... All that matters is that Alonso has been able to reasonably match Massa on his first drive of the car. In a brand new car, brand new team...... That's impressive.
#184896
I wouldn't normally draw any conclusions from testing tbh but i thought the immediacy with which Alonso eclipsed Massa best time of the previous two days at Valencia was quite remarkable. Massa will have got the car set up the first afternoon you have to assume, and while he may not have set his fastest lap on a low fuel run, it would seem unlikely that he had more than 20 laps of fuel in the car. Alonso was faster than Massa before lunchtime on his first day in the car, using Massa's setup and in fact his first Massa beating time came in the middle of 30 lap run, so with at least 15 laps of fuel onboard. He then proceded to go even faster in the afternoon, presumably once he had set up the car to his liking rather than Massa's


:yes:


each day with more rubber on the track times are bound to come down. I wouldnt read anything what so ever into the Valencia times by Massa and Alonso to see who is faster.


Right. I've said a few times, it doesn't really matter which of the two is 'actually' faster... All that matters is that Alonso has been able to reasonably match Massa on his first drive of the car. In a brand new car, brand new team...... That's impressive.


He's a double world champion hired to match his team mate; to not do so would be a failure- but as has been pointed out it is not conclusive how he has faired.
#184928
I wouldn't normally draw any conclusions from testing tbh but i thought the immediacy with which Alonso eclipsed Massa best time of the previous two days at Valencia was quite remarkable. Massa will have got the car set up the first afternoon you have to assume, and while he may not have set his fastest lap on a low fuel run, it would seem unlikely that he had more than 20 laps of fuel in the car. Alonso was faster than Massa before lunchtime on his first day in the car, using Massa's setup and in fact his first Massa beating time came in the middle of 30 lap run, so with at least 15 laps of fuel onboard. He then proceded to go even faster in the afternoon, presumably once he had set up the car to his liking rather than Massa's


:yes:


each day with more rubber on the track times are bound to come down. I wouldnt read anything what so ever into the Valencia times by Massa and Alonso to see who is faster.


Right. I've said a few times, it doesn't really matter which of the two is 'actually' faster... All that matters is that Alonso has been able to reasonably match Massa on his first drive of the car. In a brand new car, brand new team...... That's impressive.

You're easily impressed then! He is doing what's expected from him!
#184932
In the first drive EVER in said car??
That's impressive, no matter what's expected of him.

BTW he's hired and is expected to win the championship. And even if he does win it, it will be impressive. Wouldn't you agree?
#184938
In the first drive EVER in said car??
That's impressive, no matter what's expected of him.

BTW he's hired and is expected to win the championship. And even if he does win it, it will be impressive. Wouldn't you agree?


Depends how good the Ferrari turns out to be.
#184961
In the first drive EVER in said car??
That's impressive, no matter what's expected of him.

BTW he's hired and is expected to win the championship. And even if he does win it, it will be impressive. Wouldn't you agree?

oh please he isn't a rookie, Like he even commented, he thanked Felipe for doing all the setup work, and with Alonsos experiences what you're applauding as Demi god impressiveness is fetching!
#184999
cant anybody say anything positive and applauding about somebody other than a Mclaren driver and not have every word raped and broken apart by the usual idiots

with love

an avid reader
#185000
cant anybody say anything positive and applauding about somebody other than a Mclaren driver and not have every word raped and broken apart by the usual idiots

with love

an avid reader


nope, this is a McLaren stronghold. You'll get used to it :thumbup:
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