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#18019
Hi all,

this text is interesting, i think. that are the reasons cos Alonso's fans argue to hate McLaren and Hamilton. (i speak and write inglish very poor, sorry)

G.P. Australia (03-18-07): The pit-stop strategy is favorable to Lewis Hamilton in damage of Fernando Alonso.

G.P. Barhein (04-15-07): Strangely, the car of Fernando Alonso suffers damages, justified by his own team, due to this his car cannot follow the rate of Hamilton, whose car works perfectly. Lewis Hamilton changes to several times his trajectory in the exit, when this totally prohibited, not being sanctioned for that reason.

G.P. Monaco (05-27-07): When few laps remain to the end, McLaren orders to his drivers put the engines lower than 19.000 r.p.m. Lewis Hamilton, disobeying the team, didn't do it and tryed to advance Alonso. when he didn't obtain it, he complaint at the end of the race to the F.I.A and English media, causing an investigation and a great mediatic pressure on F. Alonso.

The team doesn't take measures against Hamilton. Also, during the race, Hamilton drive on the continuous line in the exit of boxes. This prohibited, He didn't receive for that reason any sanction from the F.I.A.

G.P. Canada (06-10-07): Strange behavior of the Fernando Alonso's car. Once again the car nº 1 is not in the same mechanical conditions than the car of Lewis Hamilton.

G.P. U.S.A (06-17-07): The Pit-Stop strategies favor L. Hamilton blatantly again.

G.P. France (07-01-07): Strangely, before the rain forecast, Fernando Alonso has problems with his gear box in the Q3, being relegated to position 10 in the start position. his teammate Lewis Hamilton does not suffer any problem.


G.P. Germany (07-22-07): Incredible accion by the race directors after Lewis Hamilton get away from the track. A rescue crane places the british driver on track, although it's serious risk for the other runners.

Suspiciously the crane didn't move the runners by same order they had out from track, but Lewis Hamilton was first. The regulation establishes clearly, they must shut-down the motor and leave the car. The other runners did.

G.P. Hungary (08-05-07): The extra fast lap in the Q3 corresponds to Fernando Alonso by the McLaren's random system. Lewis Hamilton prevents it skipping the order of his team, entering to change tires by his own decision behind Fernando Alonso, whom incredibly saw the mechanic put used hard tires in his car.

After, the team put new soft tires to Lewis Hamilton. Anyway Alonso obtains the first position, it causes a misfortune to Ron Dennis and a new denunciation from Hamilton to the F.I.A.

After this, Alonso is delayed 5 positions in the start, applying a nonexistent law in the regulation, and McLaren loses the points of constructors for this race. Inexplicably the team doesn't take some measure against the British driver.

G.P. Italy (09-09-07):
Lewis Hamilton places the car in diagonal at the start and do several changes of trajectory not being admonished for that reason, once again.


G.P. Belgium (09-16-07): Presumed attempt of sabotage to the car of Fernando Alonso. His manager says the day of the free training the own Alonso discovers something doesn't go fine in his car, forcing to the mechanics to review it.

They discovers it missed a cover of the motor oil. If he do just one lap more in these conditions would be broken its motor, being delayed 10 positions in the start.

G.P. Japan (09-30-07): Incredibly, Fernando Alonso has problems in the Q3 with his tires again, as he declares after finalizing the classification. Lewis Hamilton has an extra qualification lap with new tires and less combustible than Alonso. Hamilton obtains the first position.

During the race both drivers get crash, and only the driver who touches Lewis Hamilton (Kubica) is sanctioned, but is Fernando Alonso who suffers serious damages in his car. The team doesn't warn Alonso about the damages in his car, He suffers an accident before the passivity of his own team.

When the safety-car is on the track, after an accident, Lewis Hamilton skips the norms again, causing an accident to his companions Weber and Vettel, not being sanctioned again, after the investigation with new and full tests against him.

G.P. China (10-06-07): nth time, Fernando Alonso have problems in the Q3. He have been much more faster than his companion during the free training and the two first rounds of qualification.

After the second position of Alonso in China and the abandonment of Lewis Hamilton, only a mechanic of McLaren goes to podium to celebrate it. Later Ron Dennis declares in public "the fight in this race was not against Ferrari, it was against Fernando Alonso". In his own team, he's consider like the adversary to beat.

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This is the spanish version. I post it because i want to know the similar thing but in british version, and other countrys too, because i think is needed to know all point of view to be near the truth. And i'm sure there are so many people thinking like me.

I want to talk RESPECTING between us. I will ignore all insolent posts.
first we are equal people, don't let the patriotism blind you.
don't belive the yellow press.
what else do you expect from the spanish
By Ron Dennis
#18038
what else do you expect from the spanish


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Spanish Cheating Cyclists

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Spanish Para-lympics cheats

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Spanish Soccer Cheats

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F1 Blackmailer and self-confessed cheat

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Killing animals as a spectator sport

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More cheating Spaniards in Paralympics

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Spain in WW2

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The Spanish Armada - Now you see 'em
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Now you dont!
;-)
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By saz17
#18042
just goes to show that no matter what country your in the press will write what people want to hear, to get people to buy papers, to get themselves more money!!

The majority spaniards would like to see Alonso take the title, the Brits Hamilton, every media report going will be twisted to back up and provide people with what they want to hear.

The National papers are hear not to provide us with accurate, impartial information but to make money, thats why no matter what country you are in, they are never to be believed
By rago
#18046
in spain there are four importans media group in sport: marca, as, sport and mundo deportivo.

as is fanatic whit alonso. read it is like go to the circus.

marca is more equitative. evidently prefer alonso, but they treat better the f1 information.

mundo deportivo and sport belongs to catalonia. and alonso is a spanish hero...


PD. this nick, ronn dennis...is a little bad-mannered person
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By bud
#18068
donde esta el sanaterio?
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By darwin dali
#18071
You're at the right address bud :)
By supeindesu
#18122
In the case that phrase means something...
By rago
#18128
what? sorry, english not my idiom XD


PD. sanaterio??? que es eso?
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By darwin dali
#18132
sanatorio - sanatorium in English, also used for loony bin :)
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By pit_babe
#18135
I see that the spanish press are calling us raciest now, I personally cannot see any racism in F1 , except maybe in the spanish press itself. I dont dislike alonso because he/s spanish but because hes a total P****. The spanish are more racist than we are, I dont recall LH using the race card, If they continue making this sort of allogations then F1 will be finished. That sort of thing has no place in our world at all, never mind in sport. All these allogations can do is drive people away from F1.
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By pit_babe
#18136
in spain there are four importans media group in sport: marca, as, sport and mundo deportivo.

as is fanatic whit alonso. read it is like go to the circus.

marca is more equitative. evidently prefer alonso, but they treat better the f1 information.

mundo deportivo and sport belongs to catalonia. and alonso is a spanish hero...


PD. this nick, ronn dennis...is a little bad-mannered person
I can think of many other words than Hero to describe alonso, and the spanish press. Whats wrong with Ron Dennis as a Nick Who are you to make such comments
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By darwin dali
#18138
The spanish are more racist than we are


And that's exactly the problem also here in our forum: too much racism or chauvinism on BOTH sides. I wish there wasn't ANY, so please you guys refrain from that kind of posts where nationalities are defamed and comparisons with fascism and naziism are made.
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By pit_babe
#18140
The spanish are more racist than we are


And that's exactly the problem also here in our forum: too much racism or chauvinism on BOTH sides. I wish there wasn't ANY, so please you guys refrain from that kind of posts where nationalities are defamed and comparisons with fascism and naziism are made.
We can but hope
By Lewisfan
#18147
marca is a vile nasty racist newspaper. It's show have vile the spainish are
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By saz17
#18154
marca is a vile nasty racist newspaper. It's show have vile the spainish are


im assuming you know every member of the spanish public to come to the conclusion they are all vile?

Come on what is all this? This is a bloody discussion board, about F1, opinions are normally better thought of when backed up by fact. To regard a whole nation of people as vile, is a liittkle narrow minded??

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