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Do you have to be good in the media to be considered the best?

Yes
1
6%
No
17
94%
By BritishBear
#177725
Well in a literal sense, technically that's correct. What researchers tend to do is choose for comparison, subjects within boundaries that have a finite and measurable amount of variables. An example is a guy in an office on the floor below me is carrying out research into consumer behaviour in terms of purchasing food by three specific areas - store own brands, national brands and international brands. There are a number of variables that include gender / age / ethnicity etc. of shopper. Location of store, economic climate etc. but essentially the products are similar and comparable.

The problem with F1 is that each car has approximately 80,000 components, the majority of which will differ, some in a minor way and others in a major way from car to car and set-up to set-up. That's a whole lot of variables to take into account, and that's just the car itself!....

Technically I will admit that such a statistical study may be possible, however this would have to be a massive scale study with a lot of people and a lot of time (we're talking years) to collect the data (much of which may not even exist beyond a decade or so ago), deconstruct the data and then construct and test the hypotheses. Even then, the results would not be conclusive due to certain crucial variables that cannot be tested.

Statistics is a very boring subject that personally (and rather sadly :D ) I find interesting, I fear if I go on too much that I may send some forum members to sleep (if they haven't done so already!!).

Research is a very tricky field, and this is why I said at the outset that the term 'statistics' is often misquoted and misinterpreted. Often when people mention statistics (particularly relating to sports), what they actually are talking about is records, which are two different things. That was all I really meant at the start of this discussion... :)


Ahhh, I follow. I find statistics and figures of that ilk interesting also (but that could be when I have an interest in the subject matter).
By suitcase
#177740
I believe that the best driver is not only talented, but also a good person. For example, let's say Jenson Button is a jerk (I have no idea if he is). Yes, he might be World Champion, but is he the best driver in my eyes? No. I just can't help this.
Unfortunately, this isn't how it works out - the best driver is simply the person who wins the most, and that is all. The World Champion does not win because of his integrity, character, generosity, etc. He wins because of his talent (or luck).
By Gaz
#177743
tell you who does believe in the power of the media - luca bador they had the power to make him drive crap apparently. :hehe:
By BritishBear
#177759
I believe that the best driver is not only talented, but also a good person. For example, let's say Jenson Button is a jerk (I have no idea if he is). Yes, he might be World Champion, but is he the best driver in my eyes? No. I just can't help this.
Unfortunately, this isn't how it works out - the best driver is simply the person who wins the most, and that is all. The World Champion does not win because of his integrity, character, generosity, etc. He wins because of his talent (or luck).


Well, in truth, "best" is subjective, there is no single definition of best driver because everyone has their own ideas of what it is that constitutes a best driver, some people (like me) look at the numbers, others have a guy feeling about someone etc etc.

tell you who does believe in the power of the media - luca bador they had the power to make him drive crap apparently. :hehe:


haha, I remember that shortly after posting the poll as it happens :)
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By Frosty
#177760
tell you who does believe in the power of the media - luca bador they had the power to make him drive crap apparently. :hehe:

:rofl:
By suitcase
#177774
I believe that the best driver is not only talented, but also a good person. For example, let's say Jenson Button is a jerk (I have no idea if he is). Yes, he might be World Champion, but is he the best driver in my eyes? No. I just can't help this.
Unfortunately, this isn't how it works out - the best driver is simply the person who wins the most, and that is all. The World Champion does not win because of his integrity, character, generosity, etc. He wins because of his talent (or luck).


Well, in truth, "best" is subjective, there is no single definition of best driver because everyone has their own ideas of what it is that constitutes a best driver, some people (like me) look at the numbers, others have a guy feeling about someone etc etc.

Yes, I should have put best in quotations.
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By headless
#177893
Pretty unanimous

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