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[Lewisfan]

Junior Series Lewis beat Vettel, and before you start jump up and down all car in Formula Three Euroseries are equal.

Formula Three Euroseries

In 2005 he drove for ASL Mucke Motorsport in the Formula Three Euroseries. He was placed fifth in the final standings with 64 points, winning the year's top rookie honours. He did not win any races, but this was largely due to the championship's domination by Lewis Hamilton. (All cars are equal)

Lewis won Formula Three Euroseries 2 times ( All Cars are equal)
Lewis won GP2 Won in Rookie year ( All Cars are equal)

Another thing no major team have ever put a rookie in their car including McLaren.
In my personal opinion, Vettel is a great talent, but before running down Lewis Look at all the pre-F1 series all these series cars are equal, so it just on Driver abilities and Lewis have dominate and won most of them with EQUAL cars, and that why he is in a top car. Lewis is a great talent.

[bolow]

Just find out this information

Lewis Hamilton 1st 3rd 1st 1st - 1st 1st 1st 3rd 1st 1st 1st - 1st - 1st 1st 1st 1st 1st points 172"
Sebastian Vettel 5th 7th - - - - - 5th 5th 2nd 4th - 2nd 2nd 2nd 3rd - - 3rd points 63
Adrian Sutil 2nd - - 2nd 1st 2nd 2nd - 2nd 3rd - 2nd 1st 3rd - - 4th 2nd Points 94

Yes all cars are equal

[cap-dude]

Yeah, but considering Vettel was about 17 when he entered that series, i think we could forgive the fact he didn't challenge Sutil or Lewis

[racechick]

He remains less experienced than those two.

[Lewisfan]

Yeah, but considering Vettel was about 17 when he entered that series, i think we could forgive the fact he didn't challenge Sutil or Lewis

It's only 2 years different between Lewis and Vettel, Lewis was 20 and Vettel was 18. Most of your arguements were if Vettel had the same car as Lewis he would have beaten him well he did and Vettel was unable to beat Lewis. Vettel does have lots of experience in Karting and pre-F1 series the only thing is that he didn't enter the GP2 series, he went directly into F1.

Vettel started racing karts in 1995, winning various titles. In 2003, he upgraded to open-wheel cars, and won the 2004 German Formula BMW Championship with 18 victories from 20 races. In 2005 he drove for ASL Mucke Motorsport in the Formula Three Euroseries. He was placed fifth in the final standings with 64 points, winning the year's top rookie honours. He did not win any races, but this was largely due to the championship's domination by Lewis Hamilton. Despite, this, he tested the Williams FW27 Formula One car on September 27 as a reward for this Formula BMW success. He then went on to test for the BMW Sauber team. Vettel finished as runner-up in the 2006 F3 Euroseries, behind series leader Paul di Resta.

[ImYourDaddy]

Yeah, but that's not F1

[racechick]

No but its the best measure we have as to their comparative ability

[nikon133]

Junior Series Lewis beat Vettel, and before you start jump up and down all car in Formula Three Euroseries are equal.

Formula Three Euroseries

In 2005 he drove for ASL Mucke Motorsport in the Formula Three Euroseries. He was placed fifth in the final standings with 64 points, winning the year's top rookie honours. He did not win any races, but this was largely due to the championship's domination by Lewis Hamilton. (All cars are equal)

Lewis won Formula Three Euroseries 2 times ( All Cars are equal)
Lewis won GP2 Won in Rookie year ( All Cars are equal)

Another thing no major team have ever put a rookie in their car including McLaren.
In my personal opinion, Vettel is a great talent, but before running down Lewis Look at all the pre-F1 series all these series cars are equal, so it just on Driver abilities and Lewis have dominate and won most of them with EQUAL cars, and that why he is in a top car. Lewis is a great talent.

Well, if I can recal correctly, Frentzen was beating MS, was it in cart or somewhere else..? Didn't mean much in F1.

[madbrad]

it was in some mercedes thing. They were both groomed by mercedes. Sauber got a mercedes works eal along with getting Frentzen. MS then stole Frentzen's girlfriend. I think that's now MS's wife.

[racechick]

Yes MS did nich his girlfriend, Connie. Frentzen showed brilliant form when he first entered F1, thats how he got the Williams(?) drive. His form went off after that, mainly he couldnt cope with the psychological pressures-the mind games, and his pace went off.

[madbrad]

no, his brake pads exploded! And MS pushed him off the track in Canada. He should have gone to the Ferrari garage and clocked him! Not a jury in the land would convict him!

[racechick]

Yes that sounds classic MS! No jury would have convicted him but you discount the long arm of the FIA!!

[madbrad]

you discount the long arm of the FIA!!

I'm glad you noticed.