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[stonemonkey]

Why can't the spainish just stay on there own website. I don't care about Alonso, I am not on some spainish website bad mouthing Alonso

Maybe the more sensible spanish racing fans have kicked them out of there already and they need somewhere to go.

[Fact Man]

As has been pointed out in some more unpleasant ways around this forum , Hamilton is Rons boy, he's supported him for a large part of his career with the intention of bringing him into F1 but at the point when Alonso started complaining that he wasn't recieving No. 1 treatment he never said anything about not recieving equal treatment. It's only since relations between Ron Dennis and Alonso have broken down that you can say that he's maybe since not recieved equal support from within the team.

Throughout the season both the Mclarens have been pretty closely matched and for the most have been more reliable and faster than the Ferraris with the exception of some tracks more suited to the Ferraris but I can't believe that Mclaren have such an advantage that they could afford to nobble their cars to any extent and still get the results they have.

All supposition and assumption.

Not quite, maybe your understanding of the English language is somewhat lacking.

As has been pointed out in some more unpleasant ways around this forum , Hamilton is Rons boy, he's supported him for a large part of his career with the intention of bringing him into F1

there is no doubt from anyone's point of view that is fact.

at the point when Alonso started complaining that he wasn't recieving No. 1 treatment he never said anything about not recieving equal treatment.

also a fact.

since relations between Ron Dennis and Alonso have broken down that you can say that he's maybe since not recieved equal support from within the team.

This is about the only part of it that is an assumption but the weird thing, considering your reply is that it's almost the same as one that you repeatedly use yourself Fact man.

Oh Stonemonkey, if you were smart enough you would have realized that I used your own answer to one of my posts (from a different thread). It was just to show you that most of our opinions are "supposition and assumption". For example, you can claim that RD plays it fair while I claim he doesn't. No one will ever know for sure because we are nothing but fans who read whatever the media feeds us. Of course, we should do our homework and use some reason but it will always be limited to knowing for sure what is really happening within a team. Capice

[cap-dude]

Check what they said about Monza/Italy.

Strange angle, lol. Do they even watch the sport. If they did they would know its a technique adopted from Gp2, besides pretty much all the drivers starting 2nd do that

[Lewis Hamilton - COME ON!]

they are spanish...they dont understand F1 that well...like bull-fighting...you dont wave a RED FLAG OR A bull...well a prancing horse will chase ya!

[supeindesu]

If you can't read that's your problem.

[stonemonkey]

Yes Fact man, I had noticed. But I also noticed that when I used it it at least made sense, what exactly is supposed or assumed in my statement that you answered to?

[Fact Man]

they are spanish...they dont understand F1 that well...like bull-fighting...you dont wave a RED FLAG OR A bull...well a prancing horse will chase ya!

Hey Stephen don't you find this offending?

[Ron Dennis]

YOu have to remember that the SPanish (like the Italians) have no sense of fair play.

The cheat in everything they do - just look at the Champions League when a British team plays against them.....

The whine about unequal treatment but ignore Alonso and his blackmail attempt which was made in order to get......youve guessed it.....unequal treatment!

[supeindesu]

Stop drinking Ron.

[ArtHowe]

Stop thinking Suspenders... your not equipped for it.

[Ron Dennis]

Tell me SPanish people, how do you feel about Alonso blackmailing McLaren in order to get the favor you complain Hamilton is getting?

[rago]

hi, i'm spanish, i read this forum every week (you know, for understand the other points of view) and finally i write one post here.
generaly, in spain there are a total hate respect to mclaren and hamilton. the "casuals" first though that de la rosa must be the second driver this year.
lately they said that alonso must be the NO1 yes or yes.
and now every accion, every point for hamilton is illegal


this is the general opinion in spain.

evidently not all the spanish think equals. for example me, i think that hamilton is the dennis's boy (with all the consecuences) and is english (in a english sport), but he is a great great pilot.

[rago]

PD- sorry for my english and PUXA ALONSO (go alonso)

[stonemonkey]

Nice post rago.

Shows how differently the media reports on things from country to country.

[Ron Dennis]

hi, i'm spanish, i read this forum every week (you know, for understand the other points of view) and finally i write one post here.
generaly, in spain there are a total hate respect to mclaren and hamilton. the "casuals" first though that de la rosa must be the second driver this year.
lately they said that alonso must be the NO1 yes or yes.
and now every accion, every point for hamilton is illegal


this is the general opinion in spain.

evidently not all the spanish think equals. for example me, i think that hamilton is the dennis's boy (with all the consecuences) and is english (in a english sport), but he is a great great pilot.

Welcome to the forum.

Its nice to know that in the Spanish Media, we have found a group more obnoxious than the British gutter press.