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[racechick]

Ok, fine he's never overtaken anyone for the win.

Massa has Hungary 08

What are you getting at?

I think he's getting at, can Vettel fight it out when the going gets tough? He's ok if he gets in front...usually, not always. Massa is a bit like that but has shown he can fight. Vettel has speed, no doubt about that , but is he a racer?? I'm not convinced of that yet.

[scotty]

Ok, fine he's never overtaken anyone for the win.

Massa has Hungary 08

What are you getting at?

I think he's getting at, can Vettel fight it out when the going gets tough? He's ok if he gets in front...usually, not always. Massa is a bit like that but has shown he can fight. Vettel has speed, no doubt about that , but is he a racer?? I'm not convinced of that yet.

Fair enough, i personally think i've seen enough from him to disagree with that viewpoint though.

[racechick]

Ok, fine he's never overtaken anyone for the win.

Massa has Hungary 08

What are you getting at?

I think he's getting at, can Vettel fight it out when the going gets tough? He's ok if he gets in front...usually, not always. Massa is a bit like that but has shown he can fight. Vettel has speed, no doubt about that , but is he a racer?? I'm not convinced of that yet.

Fair enough, i personally think i've seen enough from him to disagree with that viewpoint though.

Well it'll all come out in the wash.