- 16 Nov 09, 17:43#170253
A racing car that does not win, is just art
he may follow orders but is he fast enough?

A racing car that does not win, is just art
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pilotfriend wrote:I am sorry, but I am amazed that he has the gall to show is face anywhere in the motor sport world. He is a spoilt dangerous little cheat and nothing will change my mind on this.Agreed. That the sniveling little cheat has the cheek to even talk about making a comeback is, frankly, insulting.

Jensonb wrote:But when you say things like that based on one indiscretion (albeit a big one), you have to label Michael Schumacher the same as he cheated more than Piquet; because he was more talented doesn't make him any less of a cheat. Michael got numerous chances so I believe that Piquet should get another chance. To be honest I would say that Force India have been attracted to his financial backing rather than his skill but he may well spring a surprise in a more nurturing team, then many will be eating their words!pilotfriend wrote:I am sorry, but I am amazed that he has the gall to show is face anywhere in the motor sport world. He is a spoilt dangerous little cheat and nothing will change my mind on this.Agreed. That the sniveling little cheat has the cheek to even talk about making a comeback is, frankly, insulting.
myownalias wrote:I would define plotting to deliberately slam a car into a wall, a pre-mediated attempt to fix a race in order to try and extend one's racing career as the most heinous act of cheating in F1's history. Parking a car and some dodgy ill-formed blocks thrown together in a desperate last-minute struggle are not in the same league, not even close.Jensonb wrote:But when you say things like that based on one indiscretion (albeit a big one), you have to label Michael Schumacher the same as he cheated more than Piquet; because he was more talented doesn't make him any less of a cheat. Michael got numerous chances so I believe that Piquet should get another chance. To be honest I would say that Force India have been attracted to his financial backing rather than his skill but he may well spring a surprise in a more nurturing team, then many will be eating their words!pilotfriend wrote:I am sorry, but I am amazed that he has the gall to show is face anywhere in the motor sport world. He is a spoilt dangerous little cheat and nothing will change my mind on this.Agreed. That the sniveling little cheat has the cheek to even talk about making a comeback is, frankly, insulting.


Jabberwocky wrote:I think the term Pre-Meditated is the biggest point of that statement.Yeah, that's a big part of why I hold that view.

myownalias wrote:When it comes to cheating there is no grey area, Michael taking out Damon Hill in '94 after the German hit the wall; that could be construed a race fixing; taking out your title rival to win the title by one point. Again in '97 when he attempted to do the same to Jacques Villenueve unsuccessfully, at least he got punished by losing all his 2007 points after the fact. And the aforementioned "parking" incident in Monaco quali in 2006, three incidents of cheating and he still continued. I don't see Piquet's actions being any worse that Schumacher's, motivation withstanding, do you not believe that Michaels actions were premeditated; especially in 2007 when attempting to take out Villeneueve!funny you posted that, I was just mulling over if he had planned parking in Monaco, knowing that everyone where going to do that fastest laps in the last few seconds of quali.

myownalias wrote:When it comes to cheating there is no grey area, Michael taking out Damon Hill in '94 after the German hit the wall; that could be construed a race fixing; taking out your title rival to win the title by one point. Again in '97 when he attempted to do the same to Jacques Villenueve unsuccessfully, at least he got punished by losing all his 2007 points after the fact. And the aforementioned "parking" incident in Monaco quali in 2006, three incidents of cheating and he still continued. I don't see Piquet's actions being any worse than Schumacher's, motivation withstanding, do you not believe that Michaels actions were premeditated; especially in 2007 when attempting to take out Villeneueve!Pretty sure it was 1997, but no. I don't.

Jensonb wrote:Yes it was 1997, I mistyped as I mentioned it as '97 earlier in the post... I guess we'll have to agree to disagreemyownalias wrote:When it comes to cheating there is no grey area, Michael taking out Damon Hill in '94 after the German hit the wall; that could be construed a race fixing; taking out your title rival to win the title by one point. Again in '97 when he attempted to do the same to Jacques Villenueve unsuccessfully, at least he got punished by losing all his 2007 points after the fact. And the aforementioned "parking" incident in Monaco quali in 2006, three incidents of cheating and he still continued. I don't see Piquet's actions being any worse than Schumacher's, motivation withstanding, do you not believe that Michaels actions were premeditated; especially in 2007 when attempting to take out Villeneueve!Pretty sure it was 1997, but no. I don't.
Rivelution wrote:I'll lose respect for Force India if they sign that douchebag.You have respect for FI?
Juliet P wrote:Yeah they're the tiny little team that could, just wish they had a better name though.Rivelution wrote:I'll lose respect for Force India if they sign that douchebag.You have respect for FI?

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