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[texasmr2]

There was nothing really wrong with Indy i thought, and there's nowhere else really up to scratch right now, so i'd say they should go back there just to get the GP back on the calendar asap! I think Bernie fell out with the circuit promoters though... not 100% sure, perhaps someone can confirm/correct me on that.

Well, Tony George is not the Indy CEO anymore as of July 1st. So that may help...

I doubt it will for the simple fact that a billionaire's wallet can be compared to their arsehole, they are so tight that if a chunk of coal was shoved up their arse it would only take 24hr's to produce a diamond instead of millions of years.

I wished my arsehole was that way

Yah and wild horses couldn't drag me away right??

[IceManpjn]

Well I'm British but live in the U.S., so I guess I'll name a fact about the U.S.

Hardly anyone over here even knows what F1 is let alone actually watching it. The usual response I get..."Oh is that like NASCAR?"

I don't get people comparing it to NASCAR, but everybody I know seems to think it's the exact same thing as IndyCar. A coworker, after listening to me talk about F1 many times and me explaining that the two aren't the same, said that the only thing he cares about (regarding F1) is how Sarah Fisher is doing. At that point I just about wanted to punch him in the face. I felt I made it perfectly clear that IndyCar isn't F1 and isn't even related to F1, and that there were presently zero drivers in common, and it still took like another month to drive it into his head.

Side Note: The only reason he was interested in how Sarah Fisher (IndyCar) was doing is that she is a local that he had seen race around here in small-time stuff before she got her big break.

[AKR]

I wanna go again...

The World Champion Driver and Constructor both come from this country, as does the previous World Champion Driver.

We just kick so much bottom at Formula 1, it's not even funny.

It is clear that F1 isn't s true representive of the best drivers in terms of where they come from. The best clearly come either Italy or Germany. Button only won because Brawn had the best car. If Fisichella drove for Brawn from the start he as well could of been world champion. As could of anyone else like Vettel or even Webber. It appears that in F1 too many teams are based in the UK. Even non Brittish teams like Renault. So this has given Brittish drivers more opportunities and thus the false sense of thinking that the best drivers come from Britain. Then take a look at other forms of motorsport. There is rallying and Sports car racing (GT these days), Superbikes, Motor GP and so on. Clearly those sports haven't had mostly Brittish winners. Why? Probably because most of the entrants in those catergories are not based in the UK. By the way in the race of champions, the winner wasn't from Britain either? Nor have they for the last few years. In fact the only F1 driver to win the ROC was Heikki Kovalenan. So F1 isn't really the sport where you would find the worlds best drivers overall. Rallying for example is a lot harder.

[Amanda]

I wanna go again...

The World Champion Driver and Constructor both come from this country, as does the previous World Champion Driver.

We just kick so much bottom at Formula 1, it's not even funny.

It is clear that F1 isn't s true representive of the best drivers in terms of where they come from. The best clearly come either Italy or Germany.

Oh come on. Brazil and Britain have both had multiple, fantastic world champions.

Button only won because Brawn had the best car. If Fisichella drove for Brawn from the start he as well could of been world champion. As could of anyone else like Vettel or even Webber.

While I'm not sure I agree about Fisichella (I think Barrichello would have beaten him), I'll agree that Button was lucky this year.


Now for a F1 fact about Britain, hmmmm. The youngest ever world champion is British. The same driver also holds the record for the most penalties in a season (2008).

A British driver (Jim Clark) holds the record for the most Grand Chelems (Led for the entire race, from pole, and secured the fastest lap), with a total of 8.

[Jabberwocky]

how many grandslams did Senna have?

[Amanda]

how many grandslams did Senna have?

According to wikipedia he had 4, the same as Jackie Stewart and Nigel Mansell.

Is it known as a "Grand Chelem" in formula 1? I think the correct terminology is to use the French phrase, oops, I'll correct that.

[Gilles 27]

In the 1960s, race strategies were more straightforward as races were shorter than they were in the 1950s and refueling wasn't widely used strategically, only if the car ran out of petrol. Since the introduction of mid race tire changes and refueling as a strategy, drivers leading for entire races has become less common as the stops are often staggered.

Italy hasn't really produced the goods in terms of great F1 drivers since the 1950s really. Germany, Brazil, Britain have to be the strongest nations really.

[Gaz]

I wanna go again...

The World Champion Driver and Constructor both come from this country, as does the previous World Champion Driver.

We just kick so much bottom at Formula 1, it's not even funny.

It is clear that F1 isn't s true representive of the best drivers in terms of where they come from. The best clearly come either Italy or Germany.

Oh come on. Brazil and Britain have both had multiple, fantastic world champions.

Button only won because Brawn had the best car. If Fisichella drove for Brawn from the start he as well could of been world champion. As could of anyone else like Vettel or even Webber.

While I'm not sure I agree about Fisichella (I think Barrichello would have beaten him), I'll agree that Button was lucky this year.


Now for a F1 fact about Britain, hmmmm. The youngest ever world champion is British. The same driver also holds the record for the most penalties in a season (2008).

A British driver (Jim Clark) holds the record for the most Grand Chelems (Led for the entire race, from pole, and secured the fastest lap), with a total of 8.

wow i never knew that.

[Amanda]

In the 1960s, race strategies were more straightforward as races were shorter than they were in the 1950s and refueling wasn't widely used strategically, only if the car ran out of petrol. Since the introduction of mid race tire changes and refueling as a strategy, drivers leading for entire races has become less common as the stops are often staggered.

True, but I still found it quite interesting.
The list goes:

Jim Clark 8
Alberto Ascari 5
Michael Schumacher 5
Jackie Stewart 4
Ayrton Senna 4
Nigel Mansell 4
Nelson Piquet 3
Juan Manuel Fangio 2
Jack Brabham 2
Mika Häkkinen 2

With a selection of drivers all on 1.

Italy hasn't really produced the goods in terms of great F1 drivers since the 1950s really. Germany, Brazil, Britain have to be the strongest nations really.

[Amanda]

I wanna go again...

The World Champion Driver and Constructor both come from this country, as does the previous World Champion Driver.

We just kick so much bottom at Formula 1, it's not even funny.

It is clear that F1 isn't s true representive of the best drivers in terms of where they come from. The best clearly come either Italy or Germany.

Oh come on. Brazil and Britain have both had multiple, fantastic world champions.

Button only won because Brawn had the best car. If Fisichella drove for Brawn from the start he as well could of been world champion. As could of anyone else like Vettel or even Webber.

While I'm not sure I agree about Fisichella (I think Barrichello would have beaten him), I'll agree that Button was lucky this year.


Now for a F1 fact about Britain, hmmmm. The youngest ever world champion is British. The same driver also holds the record for the most penalties in a season (2008).

A British driver (Jim Clark) holds the record for the most Grand Chelems (Led for the entire race, from pole, and secured the fastest lap), with a total of 8.

wow i never knew that.

If it's wrong blame Wikipedia, the source of all my knowledge . I've been looking down the list of F1 records on there. It's quite an interesting read (but not the most reliable source).

[headless]

I'm on there now, and yeah it is very interesting.
I like statistics.

[Gaz]

I wanna go again...

The World Champion Driver and Constructor both come from this country, as does the previous World Champion Driver.

We just kick so much bottom at Formula 1, it's not even funny.

It is clear that F1 isn't s true representive of the best drivers in terms of where they come from. The best clearly come either Italy or Germany.

Oh come on. Brazil and Britain have both had multiple, fantastic world champions.

Button only won because Brawn had the best car. If Fisichella drove for Brawn from the start he as well could of been world champion. As could of anyone else like Vettel or even Webber.

While I'm not sure I agree about Fisichella (I think Barrichello would have beaten him), I'll agree that Button was lucky this year.


Now for a F1 fact about Britain, hmmmm. The youngest ever world champion is British. The same driver also holds the record for the most penalties in a season (2008).

A British driver (Jim Clark) holds the record for the most Grand Chelems (Led for the entire race, from pole, and secured the fastest lap), with a total of 8.

wow i never knew that.

If it's wrong blame Wikipedia, the source of all my knowledge . I've been looking down the list of F1 records on there. It's quite an interesting read (but not the most reliable source).

I imagine its correct can't think with of a season that a drivers been peanalised so much.

[headless]

Italy hasn't really produced the goods in terms of great F1 drivers since the 1950s really. Germany, Brazil, Britain have to be the strongest nations really.

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Although they have produced drivers that stick around for ages.

[Gilles 27]

The list goes:

Jim Clark 8
Alberto Ascari 5
Michael Schumacher 5
Jackie Stewart 4
Ayrton Senna 4
Nigel Mansell 4
Nelson Piquet 3
Juan Manuel Fangio 2
Jack Brabham 2
Mika Häkkinen 2

The Schumacher statistic really stand out there, considering the era he was racing in, there would certainly have been at least one pitstop made by himself in all those races. I'm surprised Clark is that far ahead of Stewart and Fangio but Clark was an excellent qualifyier and he liked to lead from the start so he went quite hard right from the flag. Senna, Mansel (to an extent Piquet) and Hakkinen also achieved theirs in an era of frequent and regular lead changes through pitstop overlaps so theirs are impressive too.

[scotty]

That Grand Chelem thing is interesting, we might actually see a couple more from next season now they've changed the qualifying rules.