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By texasmr2
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Big Azza wrote:I don't like them because they're American. :)

I just don't think that USF1 does any good for the sport. We have a US team in A1. Formula One is like the Champion's League, not the World Cup. It's about teams v. teams not country against country.

I could see it now:

Team McLaren England - Hamilton and Button.

Team Brazil: Massa and Barichello.

Torro Brazillio: Senna and Piquet.

Team Ice Men: Raikkonen and Kobaleinen.

Team Spain: Alonso and Algie.

I could keep going... :D
Thanks for proving my point that you are just as ignorant as you are arrogant, not to mention prejudiced. :thumbdown:
#168381
Forgive me if im wrong but I dont think Big Azza was being anti American in that post, he was being anti national teams in F1,i.e any national teams, as he said, there's A1 for that.
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By Hansy
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texasmr2 wrote:
Hansy wrote:please spare Sauber of getting Kova.
Daym it seem's he cannot get a break even as the #2 driver at Sauber :(:hehe: .
Well, Sauber has had one of the best pairings of the grid, so I don't see any reason for them to hire such mediocrity.

If Renault quits F1 maybe we can hire Kubica back :D
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texasmr2 wrote:
gilles27 wrote:I'm uncomfortable about the USGP entry as it was made before any cost-cutting really got going.
What part of that makes you uncomfortable? They must still adhere to the current rules, oh nevermind I just realized your apprehension is perhap's based on fear???
gilles27 wrote:It seemed unlikely at the time.
Have you learned nothing in that what is percieved as unlikely concerning F1 is the most likely to happen??
gilles27 wrote:I don't see them being able to run effectively from the US,
Are you saying that the team could not possibly be run successfully from the US??? The misguided perception is that a certain island holds and bestows all that is worthy and true of F1?? :confused:

Please refer to DD's reply.
gilles27 wrote:they haven't got any drivers on their books as of yet.
How do you know they do not???
gilles27 wrote:and if the going gets tough (which you have to say it might well do) they aren't a race team.
What makes them a 'non-race team':rolleyes: ??
gilles27 wrote:they are starting from scratch so it wouldn't be such a stretch to see them canning it early on.
Seem's to me you have already made your decision concerning the team and any future they may have, your crystal ball must be at it's melting point :director: !!

I have just been enlightened beyond a culpable state to persue a very worthy cause for various reason's, thank you gilles27:wink: .

yup, i was uncomfortable because i thought they wouldn't get it off the ground and it would look bad for F1 to have a team enter and then pull out.

I agree that unlikely things do happen quite often in F1 and it was more of a gut feeling than anything else.

As for the US problem, it has been cited that one of Toyota's problems was trying to run the team from two locations, neither of which were near enough to the main F1 workforce base of the UK. Unfortunately, too high a proportion of the people with relevant F1 skills and experience are based in the UK and Brits being Brits, they don't like moving. This is why foreign owned teams like Renault, Honda, Force India, Red Bull etc. have continued to operate out of the UK. I fear that even Spain is too far away from the action and having two bases for the team sounds like an over-complication.

they may have some drivers, but i find it odd that none of the decent guys who are out of a job for next season are talking about USGP. They are not a race team in the sense of Campos and Manor which exist simply to race and are just moving category. USGP was set up for the sole purpose of competing in F1. Once they've entered a race, then they'll be a race team :thumbup:

as i said, it's a gut feeling about them not entering. I sincerely hope they do, i would love to see more of a US presence in F1, i just feel that they have set themselves too great a task by trying to do it they way they are. i hope i'm wrong!
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Well Ferrari attempted to move their aero design work to the UK in the 1990s but with limited success. Italy seems to be the exception. You would expect Germany to be a good place to be too but Toyota struggled.
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By bud
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vaptin wrote:
bud wrote:I wasnt aware Ferrari were based in the UK.
yeah but italy also have the pedigree, no?
My point was, they still have a lot of Brits working there for Ferrari. and thats even further away than Germany or Spain.
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bud wrote:
vaptin wrote:
bud wrote:I wasnt aware Ferrari were based in the UK.
yeah but italy also have the pedigree, no?
My point was, they still have a lot of Brits working there for Ferrari. and thats even further away than Germany or Spain.
if you were a British F1 engineer and you got offered a job at Ferrari, based in Burma, you'd still take it over a job at a new or average current team based in France. A new outfit needs to try even harder to attract the top talent, it has no pedigree or results on which to recruit.
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By headless
#168488
Tony_sa wrote:
headless wrote:Team Germany?
lets see if you can get your nic right down the last posts
eh?
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