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[Ineluke]

Heikki was not good enough,it's as simple as that. F1 is a business and points mean everything,Heikki could not deliver the kind of points that McLaren wanted to see from one of their drivers. Heikki should thank his lucky stars that he had the opportunity to drive for such a team,he can take away a lot of knowledge from the experience. 2010 is going to be one,if not the most spectacular F1 season of all time,the stakes are high and the manoeuvring is nearly done.

McLaren need a driver who can deliver and if it means a fight out between their two drivers but still keeping the team spirit,then let it be so. Winning is everything in this game,if you can't cut it ,move over and let a driver who can.

Bye Heikki..

Good Luck..

[darwin dali]

F1live:
In what might be interpreted as a parting shot, Heikki Kovalainen has suggested that he did not enjoy equal treatment as Lewis Hamilton's McLaren team-mate in 2008 and 2009, something also alleged by Fernando Alonso during his time with the Woking-based team.

The Finn is now linked with a move to Toyota or Renault, while McLaren weighs up the various pros and cons of pairing Hamilton next year with Kimi Raikkonen or Jenson Button. McLaren insists it operates without a driver hierarchy, but Kovalainen painted a different picture in conversation with the Finnish newspaper Helsingin Sanomat.

"It was always difficult to accept that Lewis was always the first to receive the new parts,” he said. "I have never wanted to make a big deal about it, but it would have been nice to just once had the new parts on my car, particularly after we lost the chance of winning the championship.
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"I could have complained publicly but instead wanted to show the team that I always give maximum effort with the car that I have, and I think they realise that."

Kovalainen also alleges that he has not enjoyed equal status in terms of race strategies.

"Every time this season - when Hamilton and I are in the third part of qualifying - I had to do it with more fuel. If you take into account the quantities of fuel, I would have had pole position several times," he insists.

Kovalainen admits his performances at times this season could have been better, but does not rule out staying at McLaren in 2010.

"I am 100% sure that McLaren has not yet made a decision. We'll see what they do.”



Here we go again: happy bitching to y'all

I think that it's not called unequal treatment. Lewis has proven himself through his on-track performances and his results, whereas Heikki has not.

Look at it this way. Supposing you were a parent and you had two kids, who both sat the GCE 'O' Levels in the same year. One of your kids did well, but the other kid performed terribly and almost failed the examination. Would you give both kids an equal reward, despite their performances, or would you choose to reward the kid who did well, but not the other?

Think about it.

Cause, it's a similar sort of thing, isn't it?

No it isn't:
You would still love your two kids equally, i.e., equal treatment. What you might do is give one kid a bigger allowance, i.e., driver salary!

[Tony_sa]

thats why i didnt bother to answer that one DD ... would not have been so subtle

[Gaz]

No it isn't:
You would still love your two kids equally, i.e., equal treatment. What you might do is give one kid a bigger allowance, i.e., driver salary!

So your saying you'd give more of your resources to the kid who did better right?

What if you had limited resources to give your kids you'd give the kid who did better the resource.

This is exactly what Mclaren did they could only make a few new parts in the time they had so they gave them to Lewis because he was the best option for race.

[Amanda]

I think the children analogy is a little flawed, there are far too many emotions involved when you talk about your kids. This is business, pure and simple. It's just plain logic to give the better driver the best resources if you have to favour one.

[Tony_sa]

No it isn't:
You would still love your two kids equally, i.e., equal treatment. What you might do is give one kid a bigger allowance, i.e., driver salary!

So your saying you'd give more of your resources to the kid who did better right?

What if you had limited resources to give your kids you'd give the kid who did better the resource.

This is exactly what Mclaren did they could only make a few new parts in the time they had so they gave them to Lewis because he was the best option for race.

LB please... you guys came be so lame sometimes just to prove either mclaren or lewis right. no comparison....

[Gaz]

No it isn't:
You would still love your two kids equally, i.e., equal treatment. What you might do is give one kid a bigger allowance, i.e., driver salary!

So your saying you'd give more of your resources to the kid who did better right?

What if you had limited resources to give your kids you'd give the kid who did better the resource.

This is exactly what Mclaren did they could only make a few new parts in the time they had so they gave them to Lewis because he was the best option for race.

LB please... you guys came be so lame sometimes just to prove either mclaren or lewis right. no comparison....

How am i being lame? Its FACT.

If you think i am incorrect please do tell me in what way but if you have nothing better to post than "your being lame" then just keep your mouth shut - its for the best mate..

[Jabberwocky]

Just to put a spin on the child comments. if you had one child that did really well and one not so would you not give the "kovy" one more help to getting him up to level ie like extra lessons or new car parts to bring him up to speed.

it would bring the lesser child more confidence and get him motivated

[Amanda]

Just to put a spin on the child comments. if you had one child that did really well and one not so would you not give the "kovy" one more help to getting him up to level ie like extra lessons or new car parts to bring him up to speed.

it would bring the lesser child more confidence and get him motivated

Indeed, which is why the analogy doesn't work in my opinion.

[Tony_sa]

Just to put a spin on the child comments. if you had one child that did really well and one not so would you not give the "kovy" one more help to getting him up to level ie like extra lessons or new car parts to bring him up to speed.

it would bring the lesser child more confidence and get him motivated

exactly my point. LB .. mate ... relax ... told you - no comparison.. dont bring it up again. its for da best ..mate

and anyway ... thats what mclaren wasnt doing...

[Gaz]

Just to put a spin on the child comments. if you had one child that did really well and one not so would you not give the "kovy" one more help to getting him up to level ie like extra lessons or new car parts to bring him up to speed.

it would bring the lesser child more confidence and get him motivated

Because testing is banned so they can't give Hekki any more track time apart form testing which he drove as much as Lewis I believe.

As for the parts going to Hekki look at it this way if you are a team boss, and you sent Lewis out with the new parts and did a 1.22.585 and then You sent Hekki out with the new parts and he did a 1.23.055 who would you give the new parts too?

From Hungary they had equal cars Lewis finished First Hekki was 5th.

The treatment of Hekki at Mclaren as been as Equal as the teams resources allowed.

[Tony_sa]

Just to put a spin on the child comments. if you had one child that did really well and one not so would you not give the "kovy" one more help to getting him up to level ie like extra lessons or new car parts to bring him up to speed.

it would bring the lesser child more confidence and get him motivated

Because testing is banned so they can't give Hekki any more track time apart form testing which he drove as much as Lewis I believe.

As for the parts going to Hekki look at it this way if you are a team boss, and you sent Lewis out with the new parts and did a 1.22.585 and then You sent Hekki out with the new parts and he did a 1.23.055 who would you give the new parts too?

From Hungary they had equal cars Lewis finished First Hekki was 5th.

The treatment of Hekki at Mclaren as been as Equal as the teams resources allowed.

comeon LB ... you know thats not true. go back and compare fuel weights for almost every race where heiki was in top ten and thats where the proof is.
and i know after you done that you will come up with more drivel.

[Jabberwocky]

But if you had to choose between Lewis getting 2nd or first (a difference of 2 points) of Heikki coming 10th or 4th so the team would score more points, which would you choose?

[Gaz]

Just to put a spin on the child comments. if you had one child that did really well and one not so would you not give the "kovy" one more help to getting him up to level ie like extra lessons or new car parts to bring him up to speed.

it would bring the lesser child more confidence and get him motivated

Because testing is banned so they can't give Hekki any more track time apart form testing which he drove as much as Lewis I believe.

As for the parts going to Hekki look at it this way if you are a team boss, and you sent Lewis out with the new parts and did a 1.22.585 and then You sent Hekki out with the new parts and he did a 1.23.055 who would you give the new parts too?

From Hungary they had equal cars Lewis finished First Hekki was 5th.

The treatment of Hekki at Mclaren as been as Equal as the teams resources allowed.

comeon LB ... you know thats not true. go back and compare fuel weights for almost every race where heiki was in top ten and thats where the proof is.
and i know after you done that you will come up with more drivel.

So your saying you believe Hekki was fuelled longer by the team to slow him down?

But if you had to choose between Lewis getting 2nd or first (a difference of 2 points) of Heikki coming 10th or 4th so the team would score more points, which would you choose?

I don't believe that was ever the case, if we use China as an example Lewis had the New Diffuser and Front Wing and i believe Hekki only had one of those components.

Lewis Qualified 9th and Hekki Qualified 12th if Hekki would of had the new front wing he would of perhaps made 10th with Perhaps Lewis 12th-11th

So they would of still both been out of the points

[Tony_sa]

But if you had to choose between Lewis getting 2nd or first (a difference of 2 points) of Heikki coming 10th or 4th so the team would score more points, which would you choose?

i would want them both up there. - and a while back that was the case. there were a few races where heiki performed better than his teammate.
anyway this is going nowhere really. - going to bed ... have a good day or night guys

cheers