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By Gaz
#165549
McLaren won't sign a driver just for their name'
Sunday 25th October 2009

In a thinly veiled warning to Kimi Raikkonen, Mercedes motorsport boss Norbert Haug says McLaren are not willing to sign a driver for big bucks just because of who he is.

In recent weeks, several drivers have been linked to a possible race-seat at McLaren, replacing the under-performing Heikki Kovalainen.

Nico Rosberg, Jenson Button and Raikkonen are the top names that have been bandied about in the press with McLaren and engine partner Mercedes both admitting an interest in signing the latter.

However, the Woking team are not the only ones chasing the Finn's signature.

Toyota are also keen and have even offered the former World Champion contract, although team president John Howett recently revealed that Raikkonen was asking too high a price for his services.

McLaren are believed to be having a similar problem in signing the Ferrari driver, who despite getting a hefty pay-out from Ferrari for ending his contract a year early, reportedly still wants 25 million Euros.

McLaren, though, have warned him that if he wants to race for them he needs to be willing to take the salary they offer because they won't just pay for the name.

"Kimi is an option, but there are lots of options around," Haug told Autosport. "One thing is for sure though - guys who are out for money are not the right ones for us - whoever it may be.

"I won't name anyone, but we want to have full commitment from someone who is success-oriented, not someone saying 'I am a big name, pay me a lot of money and I will drive for you.'

"The team has to be convinced that a driver is hungry, motivated, focused, and that his first thought is not to get more money."

Haug added that a driver should want to race for McLaren purely because of what the team can offer them on the track, citing McLaren's second half performance this year as proof that they are still capable of winning.

"We have shown our level of competitiveness - Lewis has scored race wins and podiums, and beaten the guys that have been going for the title this year," he added.

"It shows that we are going in the right direction. We have stabilised this year, and we have a seat to offer in a race-winning car. There are probably three, four, five teams maximum that can offer that."


I find it very funny that Kimi thinks he's worth 25mil still if he'd been fighting Lewis instead of Massa in 2008 then perhaps but he had a very bad season in 2008 and even though he's improved massively in 2009 who's to say he's not going to up slip again in 2010.

If he's not careful he's going end up without a drive for 2010.
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By Denthúl
#165557
I find it very funny that Kimi thinks he's worth 25mil still if he'd been fighting Lewis instead of Massa in 2008 then perhaps but he had a very bad season in 2008 and even though he's improved massively in 2009 who's to say he's not going to up slip again in 2010.

If he's not careful he's going end up without a drive for 2010.


I still find it funny that people think that people think he wasn't trying hard enough in 2008, to be honest. Ferrari had developed a car that favoured Massa's style more than Raikkonen, in the same way that the Honda favoured Barrichello more than Button and the BMW Sauber favoured Kubica more than Heidfeld. And still, he won two races and were it not for some bad luck, would have had more. You could say he was cost the chance of fighting for the win in Monaco because his team had failed to get tyres on to his car by three minutes before the race - he was running in second at the time it was issued.

In Canada, he was set to be first out of the pit lane until Hamilton ran in to the back of him. In France, technical problems allowed Massa to overtake him for the win and in Spa the rain came down which, with the Ferrari being unable to get heat in to its tyres as easily as the McLaren, effectively destroyed his chances of a win. Finally, in Fuji, after a good start and going in to the corner ahead of his rivals, he was pushed well-wide by Hamilton's move and eventually had to settle for only third place instead of something more.

I would say that's not really a sign of someone who slipped up. We saw that once Ferrari made changes to that car that suited Raikkonen more, in the last couple of races, he was back on the pace...
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By scotty
#165621
I find it very funny that Kimi thinks he's worth 25mil still if he'd been fighting Lewis instead of Massa in 2008 then perhaps but he had a very bad season in 2008 and even though he's improved massively in 2009 who's to say he's not going to up slip again in 2010.

If he's not careful he's going end up without a drive for 2010.


I still find it funny that people think that people think he wasn't trying hard enough in 2008, to be honest. Ferrari had developed a car that favoured Massa's style more than Raikkonen, in the same way that the Honda favoured Barrichello more than Button and the BMW Sauber favoured Kubica more than Heidfeld. And still, he won two races and were it not for some bad luck, would have had more. You could say he was cost the chance of fighting for the win in Monaco because his team had failed to get tyres on to his car by three minutes before the race - he was running in second at the time it was issued.

In Canada, he was set to be first out of the pit lane until Hamilton ran in to the back of him. In France, technical problems allowed Massa to overtake him for the win and in Spa the rain came down which, with the Ferrari being unable to get heat in to its tyres as easily as the McLaren, effectively destroyed his chances of a win. Finally, in Fuji, after a good start and going in to the corner ahead of his rivals, he was pushed well-wide by Hamilton's move and eventually had to settle for only third place instead of something more.

I would say that's not really a sign of someone who slipped up. We saw that once Ferrari made changes to that car that suited Raikkonen more, in the last couple of races, he was back on the pace...


Yep. Then there's France where the exhaust cost him victory, and another tyre blunder at Silverstone... The guy got 9 podiums, only one less than Hamilton and Massa. I know he made a few mistakes but so did most of the top drivers. God help everyone else if that was a bad season for him!
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By ivey
#165626
I find it very funny that Kimi thinks he's worth 25mil still if he'd been fighting Lewis instead of Massa in 2008 then perhaps but he had a very bad season in 2008 and even though he's improved massively in 2009 who's to say he's not going to up slip again in 2010.

If he's not careful he's going end up without a drive for 2010.


I still find it funny that people think that people think he wasn't trying hard enough in 2008, to be honest. Ferrari had developed a car that favoured Massa's style more than Raikkonen, in the same way that the Honda favoured Barrichello more than Button and the BMW Sauber favoured Kubica more than Heidfeld. And still, he won two races and were it not for some bad luck, would have had more. You could say he was cost the chance of fighting for the win in Monaco because his team had failed to get tyres on to his car by three minutes before the race - he was running in second at the time it was issued.

In Canada, he was set to be first out of the pit lane until Hamilton ran in to the back of him. In France, technical problems allowed Massa to overtake him for the win and in Spa the rain came down which, with the Ferrari being unable to get heat in to its tyres as easily as the McLaren, effectively destroyed his chances of a win. Finally, in Fuji, after a good start and going in to the corner ahead of his rivals, he was pushed well-wide by Hamilton's move and eventually had to settle for only third place instead of something more.

I would say that's not really a sign of someone who slipped up. We saw that once Ferrari made changes to that car that suited Raikkonen more, in the last couple of races, he was back on the pace...


Yep. Then there's France where the exhaust cost him victory, and another tyre blunder at Silverstone... The guy got 9 podiums, only one less than Hamilton and Massa. I know he made a few mistakes but so did most of the top drivers. God help everyone else if that was a bad season for him!


You just proved I was wrong. Having him next year for McLaren would be GREAT ;D. He is the one guy I'm always afraid of in the starts.
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By Denthúl
#165630
I find it very funny that Kimi thinks he's worth 25mil still if he'd been fighting Lewis instead of Massa in 2008 then perhaps but he had a very bad season in 2008 and even though he's improved massively in 2009 who's to say he's not going to up slip again in 2010.

If he's not careful he's going end up without a drive for 2010.


I still find it funny that people think that people think he wasn't trying hard enough in 2008, to be honest. Ferrari had developed a car that favoured Massa's style more than Raikkonen, in the same way that the Honda favoured Barrichello more than Button and the BMW Sauber favoured Kubica more than Heidfeld. And still, he won two races and were it not for some bad luck, would have had more. You could say he was cost the chance of fighting for the win in Monaco because his team had failed to get tyres on to his car by three minutes before the race - he was running in second at the time it was issued.

In Canada, he was set to be first out of the pit lane until Hamilton ran in to the back of him. In France, technical problems allowed Massa to overtake him for the win and in Spa the rain came down which, with the Ferrari being unable to get heat in to its tyres as easily as the McLaren, effectively destroyed his chances of a win. Finally, in Fuji, after a good start and going in to the corner ahead of his rivals, he was pushed well-wide by Hamilton's move and eventually had to settle for only third place instead of something more.

I would say that's not really a sign of someone who slipped up. We saw that once Ferrari made changes to that car that suited Raikkonen more, in the last couple of races, he was back on the pace...


Yep. Then there's France where the exhaust cost him victory, and another tyre blunder at Silverstone... The guy got 9 podiums, only one less than Hamilton and Massa. I know he made a few mistakes but so did most of the top drivers. God help everyone else if that was a bad season for him!


Hey, I already mentioned France :P
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By scotty
#165634
Hey, I already mentioned France :P


Oh yeah, apologies :hehe:
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By Frosty
#165649
The news remains unofficial, but a well-connected figure on Sunday all but confirmed the composition of Williams' driver line-up for 2010.

The British team heads into this weekend's Abu Dhabi season finale with Nico Rosberg and Kazuki Nakajima at the wheel of the FW31s, but the Williams team looks set for a wholesale change ahead of its next championship campaign.

Rosberg is likely to head to Brawn, while Kazuki Nakajima is out of favour at Williams due to the forthcoming parting of ways with the Japanese driver's backer, engine supplier Toyota.

Over the last few weeks speculation has been sending Barrichello to Williams in 2010. To Brazil's SporTV recently, he remained evasive on the question: "I have the possibility of being with Brawn and also with others.
"

However Willi Weber, famous in F1 circles for being Michael Schumacher's manager, let the cat out of the bag when speaking to Germany's Bild am Sonntag newspaper about his new charge, the 22-year-old rookie and current Williams test driver Nico Hulkenberg.

"I think he will be a match for his new teammate Barrichello," Weber said.

D.B. © CAPSIS International
Source: GMM


I think this pretty much seals it! I think Williams have made an excellent choice with these two, a young talented driver in one seat and a strong experienced driver in the other it should be a strong combination without costing a lot of money!
#165694
The news remains unofficial, but a well-connected figure on Sunday all but confirmed the composition of Williams' driver line-up for 2010.

The British team heads into this weekend's Abu Dhabi season finale with Nico Rosberg and Kazuki Nakajima at the wheel of the FW31s, but the Williams team looks set for a wholesale change ahead of its next championship campaign.

Rosberg is likely to head to Brawn, while Kazuki Nakajima is out of favour at Williams due to the forthcoming parting of ways with the Japanese driver's backer, engine supplier Toyota.

Over the last few weeks speculation has been sending Barrichello to Williams in 2010. To Brazil's SporTV recently, he remained evasive on the question: "I have the possibility of being with Brawn and also with others.
"

However Willi Weber, famous in F1 circles for being Michael Schumacher's manager, let the cat out of the bag when speaking to Germany's Bild am Sonntag newspaper about his new charge, the 22-year-old rookie and current Williams test driver Nico Hulkenberg.

"I think he will be a match for his new teammate Barrichello," Weber said.

D.B. © CAPSIS International
Source: GMM


I think this pretty much seals it! I think Williams have made an excellent choice with these two, a young talented driver in one seat and a strong experienced driver in the other it should be a strong combination without costing a lot of money!



Could be an interesting pairing.

'These two drivers should suit our car' :P
#165727
The news remains unofficial, but a well-connected figure on Sunday all but confirmed the composition of Williams' driver line-up for 2010.

The British team heads into this weekend's Abu Dhabi season finale with Nico Rosberg and Kazuki Nakajima at the wheel of the FW31s, but the Williams team looks set for a wholesale change ahead of its next championship campaign.

Rosberg is likely to head to Brawn, while Kazuki Nakajima is out of favour at Williams due to the forthcoming parting of ways with the Japanese driver's backer, engine supplier Toyota.

Over the last few weeks speculation has been sending Barrichello to Williams in 2010. To Brazil's SporTV recently, he remained evasive on the question: "I have the possibility of being with Brawn and also with others.
"

However Willi Weber, famous in F1 circles for being Michael Schumacher's manager, let the cat out of the bag when speaking to Germany's Bild am Sonntag newspaper about his new charge, the 22-year-old rookie and current Williams test driver Nico Hulkenberg.

"I think he will be a match for his new teammate Barrichello," Weber said.

D.B. © CAPSIS International
Source: GMM


I think this pretty much seals it! I think Williams have made an excellent choice with these two, a young talented driver in one seat and a strong experienced driver in the other it should be a strong combination without costing a lot of money!



Could be an interesting pairing.

'These two drivers should suit our car' :P

Nico (Rosberg) won't be around to say that anymore, he can save that for Brawn. :D

I'm really looking forward to seeing Barrichello and Hulkenberg next year. For once Williams will have one of the best pairings in the field - the most experienced driver and a rookie who sewed up the GP2 title quicker than Lewis did.

USF1 are trying to negotiate out of their Cosworth contract and want Toyota engines, so Nakajima might be off to screw them up! :rofl:
#165730
The news remains unofficial, but a well-connected figure on Sunday all but confirmed the composition of Williams' driver line-up for 2010.

The British team heads into this weekend's Abu Dhabi season finale with Nico Rosberg and Kazuki Nakajima at the wheel of the FW31s, but the Williams team looks set for a wholesale change ahead of its next championship campaign.

Rosberg is likely to head to Brawn, while Kazuki Nakajima is out of favour at Williams due to the forthcoming parting of ways with the Japanese driver's backer, engine supplier Toyota.

Over the last few weeks speculation has been sending Barrichello to Williams in 2010. To Brazil's SporTV recently, he remained evasive on the question: "I have the possibility of being with Brawn and also with others.
"

However Willi Weber, famous in F1 circles for being Michael Schumacher's manager, let the cat out of the bag when speaking to Germany's Bild am Sonntag newspaper about his new charge, the 22-year-old rookie and current Williams test driver Nico Hulkenberg.

"I think he will be a match for his new teammate Barrichello," Weber said.

D.B. © CAPSIS International
Source: GMM


I think this pretty much seals it! I think Williams have made an excellent choice with these two, a young talented driver in one seat and a strong experienced driver in the other it should be a strong combination without costing a lot of money!



Could be an interesting pairing.

'These two drivers should suit our car' :P

Nico (Rosberg) won't be around to say that anymore, he can save that for Brawn. :D

I'm really looking forward to seeing Barrichello and Hulkenberg next year. For once Williams will have one of the best pairings in the field - the most experienced driver and a rookie who sewed up the GP2 title quicker than Lewis did.

USF1 are trying to negotiate out of their Cosworth contract and want Toyota engines, so Nakajima might be off to screw them up! :rofl:


I'm not so sure only NR used to say that in the Williams corner :hehe:
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By cap-dude
#165748
Nico (Rosberg) won't be around to say that anymore, he can save that for Brawn. :D

I'm really looking forward to seeing Barrichello and Hulkenberg next year. For once Williams will have one of the best pairings in the field - the most experienced driver and a rookie who sewed up the GP2 title quicker than Lewis did.

USF1 are trying to negotiate out of their Cosworth contract and want Toyota engines, so Nakajima might be off to screw them up! :rofl:


Hulkenburg is actually the only driver to ever win GP2 before the final race. Which makes him the fastest guy to wrap up the gp2 title. Not to mention it was his first year.

What interests me now, is whether or not williams can make the most of Barrichello's experience. It's well versed that Barrichello is probably the best driver in the field at setting up a car. Williams have struggled at times with development and their lack of an experienced driver. I do wonder if Barrichello will bring the team that bit forward.

If Williams are faster than Brawn next year, I'd pretty annoyed if I were Nico :hehe:
#165754
I'm not so sure only NR used to say that in the Williams corner :hehe:

Well, you're actually right there DD, Crashajima used it plenty of times last year as well, and Sam Michael used it a couple of times early this year, and then they stopped using it... until Nico used it in the Spa preview. :hehe:
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By scotty
#165776
Hopefully this lineup can realise the potential of Williams' car (and the team as a whole, to an extent) - i think there have been several missed opportunities this season, and more often than not they've been the result of driver error. :thumbup:
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By headless
#165875
wit the Hulk there is another German in the field, might as well call it the DF1

Germans are taking over!
NEIN!
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