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#165446
FerrariFan63 wrote:
7UpJordan wrote: If nudity was allowed constantly there would be no such thing as pornography.
I think this is actually quite wrong. Pornography is sexual, and everyday nudity would not be. To make a statement like that makes the mistaken, in my opinion, assumption that nudity is inherently sexual.
Well I don't really watch pornography, and I don't seem to find FULL nudity as much of a turn on.

For instance if you showed me a clip of Kylie stripping totally naked, and then showed me a clip of her stripping to her underwear, the latter would turn me on more.
#165447
FerrariFan63 wrote:
7UpJordan wrote: If nudity was allowed constantly there would be no such thing as pornography.
I think this is actually quite wrong. Pornography is sexual, and everyday nudity would not be. To make a statement like that makes the mistaken, in my opinion, assumption that nudity is inherently sexual.
Mhm, that is a big part of the problem. I think it would take a reasonably long period of exposure to everyday nudity to change peoples' perceptions, though.
#165452
Gaz wrote:i don't know where you live Ferrarifan but its bloody cold in Manchester, so i kinda like wearing clothes.
:rofl: Agreed, case closed... :hehe:

Although technically that is a reason not to be nude rather than a reason for nudity being wrong. :P

I could go onto google images and actually show you lot why nudity is wrong at times but i may get banned!

edit: this is the sole reason as to why nudity should be considered inappropriate:

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#165453
Its like swearing.
Swear words are words.
Who made them swear words?
Why are they?
Why are they bad?
They all mean something.
Like normal words.
#165455
darwin_dali wrote: In our ach so inhibited world it sadly is most of the time. :thumbdown:
But that's part of what I'm arguing is wrong. There isn't an inherent connection between nudity and sexuality, it's a social construct. Created by our "ach so inhibited world". Or, mass stupidity as I would describe it.

And I'm sure that even Manchester is warm enough for nudity in the summer. But the "problem" is not people choosing to wear clothes, but being forced to wear clothes.
#165460
Gaz wrote:i don't know where you live Ferrarifan but its bloody cold in Manchester, so i kinda like wearing clothes.
:hehe:

It gets quite chilly up here too.

I'm a bit more conservative than your average young lady (at least the way they dress nowadays), I have no idea why, I just always have been :shrug:



At that moment, their eyes were opened, and they suddenly felt shame at their nakedness. So they strung fig leaves together around their hips to cover themselves.
Toward evening they heard the Lord God walking about in the garden, so they hid themselves among the trees.
The Lord God called to Adam, "Where are you?"
He replied, "I heard you, so I hid. I was afraid because I was naked."



...No, I'm not a religious person, I just felt that that passage was appropriate given the topic title
#165464
FerrariFan63 wrote:
darwin_dali wrote: In our ach so inhibited world it sadly is most of the time. :thumbdown:
But that's part of what I'm arguing is wrong. There isn't an inherent connection between nudity and sexuality, it's a social construct. Created by our "ach so inhibited world". Or, mass stupidity as I would describe it.

And I'm sure that even Manchester is warm enough for nudity in the summer. But the "problem" is not people choosing to wear clothes, but being forced to wear clothes.

Whats this "summer" you speak of?

:confused:

No seriously you've never been past Birmingham have you :P
#165466
Denthúl wrote: Mhm, that is a big part of the problem. I think it would take a reasonably long period of exposure to everyday nudity to change peoples' perceptions, though.
I disagree. My first "exposure" to public nudity was attending late 70s open air music festivals in my early teens. It took about three days before it seemed completely natural and unexceptional.
#165469
Amanda wrote:
Gaz wrote:i don't know where you live Ferrarifan but its bloody cold in Manchester, so i kinda like wearing clothes.
:hehe:

It gets quite chilly up here too.

I'm a bit more conservative than your average young lady (at least the way they dress nowadays), I have no idea why, I just always have been :shrug:



At that moment, their eyes were opened, and they suddenly felt shame at their nakedness. So they strung fig leaves together around their hips to cover themselves.
Toward evening they heard the Lord God walking about in the garden, so they hid themselves among the trees.
The Lord God called to Adam, "Where are you?"
He replied, "I heard you, so I hid. I was afraid because I was naked."



...No, I'm not a religious person, I just felt that that passage was appropriate given the topic title
Religion, the root of all evil :rolleyes:
See, e.g., the beekeeper suits in some countries:
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#165471
darwin_dali wrote:
Amanda wrote:
Gaz wrote:i don't know where you live Ferrarifan but its bloody cold in Manchester, so i kinda like wearing clothes.
:hehe:

It gets quite chilly up here too.

I'm a bit more conservative than your average young lady (at least the way they dress nowadays), I have no idea why, I just always have been :shrug:



At that moment, their eyes were opened, and they suddenly felt shame at their nakedness. So they strung fig leaves together around their hips to cover themselves.
Toward evening they heard the Lord God walking about in the garden, so they hid themselves among the trees.
The Lord God called to Adam, "Where are you?"
He replied, "I heard you, so I hid. I was afraid because I was naked."



...No, I'm not a religious person, I just felt that that passage was appropriate given the topic title
Religion, the root of all evil :rolleyes:
See, e.g., the beekeeper suits in some countries:
Image

No need to convince me, I'm not exactly a huge fan of organized religions either.
#165474
Amanda wrote: It gets quite chilly up here too.

I'm a bit more conservative than your average young lady (at least the way they dress nowadays), I have no idea why, I just always have been :shrug:
But giving people the freedom to dress (or undress) how they want, where they want, would give people equal freedom to be clothed or unclothed. So a personal preference for being clothed should not, in my opinion, lead to a personal preference for nudity being illegal or otherwise legally discouraged.
#165476
FerrariFan63 wrote:
Amanda wrote: It gets quite chilly up here too.

I'm a bit more conservative than your average young lady (at least the way they dress nowadays), I have no idea why, I just always have been :shrug:
But giving people the freedom to dress (or undress) how they want, where they want, would give people equal freedom to be clothed or unclothed. So a personal preference for being clothed should not, in my opinion, lead to a personal preference for nudity being illegal or otherwise legally discouraged.
So what your really asking is, why is nudity illegal - which the answer is some people find it offensive.

:shrug:
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