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By racechick
#160677
Putting aside the rights and wrongs of killing animals, what is a 5yr old doing with a gun?? A five year old is not in control of his emotions and reasoning. Insanity.
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By chemax
#160840
Putting aside the rights and wrongs of killing animals, what is a 5yr old doing with a gun?? A five year old is not in control of his emotions and reasoning. Insanity.

99.9999% of the time, that's correct. I know of some families where that is just a part of growing up, and those parents that do teach it to the young-ins, they teach/show/demand great discipline in it. Sounds crazy, but it's just a norm around here.
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By texasmr2
#160866
Putting aside the rights and wrongs of killing animals, what is a 5yr old doing with a gun??

Said 5yr old and parent were enforceing their 2nd Amendment right's and I know that the boy was not un-supervised. Hey when I was 5yr's old I knew about gun safety and hunting ethic's.

A five year old is not in control of his emotions and reasoning. Insanity.

I have know 5yr old's who have a better grasp on reality than some adult's, it all comes down to being a good teacher. How about this scenario? Why is it deemed acceptable for a 3-5yr old to start racing karts, which can also kill and/or maim a child but when it comes to guns they have what I call an 'uneducated' perception????
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By racechick
#160937
Putting aside the rights and wrongs of killing animals, what is a 5yr old doing with a gun??

Said 5yr old and parent were enforceing their 2nd Amendment right's and I know that the boy was not un-supervised. Hey when I was 5yr's old I knew about gun safety and hunting ethic's.

A five year old is not in control of his emotions and reasoning. Insanity.

I have know 5yr old's who have a better grasp on reality than some adult's, it all comes down to being a good teacher. How about this scenario? Why is it deemed acceptable for a 3-5yr old to start racing karts, which can also kill and/or maim a child but when it comes to guns they have what I call an 'uneducated' perception????


Thats a ridiculous comparison. A gun can kill others at the flick of a finger, a second of anger, and as i said before children of 5 are not in control of their emotions. Reasnoable one minute, kicking , hitting and screaming the next because they havent learnt the controls. Yes some adults are the same, all the more reason to ban guns altogether. As for carts, Ive not heard of mass deaths by carting; and i wasnt thinking of the child with the gun being killed or maimed, if the parent puts his child in that popsition thats up to him, I was thinking of the innocent person/pesons on the receiving end of the bullet.
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By texasmr2
#160967
Well I was going to say this!

Thats a ridiculous comparison.

That is a typical reply aswell.

all the more reason to ban guns altogether.

Where do you see society in say 25yr's if that was done?? Oh let me offer you an example from watching the UK police video's ok? An officer pull's over a suspected drug dealer who was caught on video selling drug's and they now have probable cause to pull them over. The driver/suspected drug dealer pull's over and immediately point's a Tech9, that's a GUN dumbass, at the 'jolly roger's' who have nothing but a 'billy club' and radio to defend them :rofl: ???? All this hollier than thou and we are more civilized BS is nothing more than what it is, a compost heap.


As for carts, Ive not heard of mass deaths by carting; and i wasnt thinking of the child with the gun being killed or maimed, if the parent puts his child in that popsition thats up to him, I was thinking of the innocent person/pesons on the receiving end of the bullet.

Check into our CHL law's concerning innocent bystanders and into our law's concerning the topic of innocent people becoming a casualty of an unfortunate incident. So now this discussion has escalated from the percieved wrongful death of an alligator to adolescent's (under adult supervision) who are raised honoring their heritage to mass deaths?????


I enjoy constructive debates but I feel like I am infected with a virus when defending myself and the US against such narrow minded and grandeur view's.

But on second thought I realized that it is like:banghead: so what is the point??? :twisted:
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By texasmr2
#160974
trying to debate the ethics of guns with an American.......good luck!


case in point!

I'm quite surprised you tried to aswell and may I add that trying to debate the ethic's of an American by a non-American is just as fruitless.
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By bud
#160977
Youre just proving my point about Yanks and guns! it's quite funny! Thing is you're too stubborn with your American pride to look at what is even being said!
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By texasmr2
#160979
Youre just proving my point about Yanks and guns! it's quite funny! Thing is you're too stubborn with your American pride to look at what is even being said!

BANG YOUR DEAD!!!!! :cloud9:
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By darwin dali
#160981
Putting aside the rights and wrongs of killing animals, what is a 5yr old doing with a gun??

Said 5yr old and parent were enforceing their 2nd Amendment right's and I know that the boy was not un-supervised. Hey when I was 5yr's old I knew about gun safety and hunting ethic's.

A five year old is not in control of his emotions and reasoning. Insanity.

I have know 5yr old's who have a better grasp on reality than some adult's, it all comes down to being a good teacher. How about this scenario? Why is it deemed acceptable for a 3-5yr old to start racing karts, which can also kill and/or maim a child but when it comes to guns they have what I call an 'uneducated' perception????

I contend that the 2nd amendment does NOT apply to underage people: 'A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.'
Similar rulings have been made re. free speech for youth. Not too long ago the supreme court ruled that a student's right of free speech does not apply (he had a banner promoting marihuana for Jesus or somtin' like that) and that youth need to be protected, even from themselves.
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By texasmr2
#161123
My apology to all involved in this discussion as I unintentionally locked it, sorry. Please continue with the discussion if you want to.

tex
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By racechick
#161137
Tex the officer pulling over the guy in a car would not be in danger if strict laws prevented civilians from having guns. Ok so the drug dealer got hold of one, thats a whole world away from bringing children up to accept guns as part of their culture. And incidentally many of our police officers going into hostile situations are trained to carry arms and do so. the guy pulling over the drug dealer would not be going in with a truncheon! Give us a bit of credit!!
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By chemax
#161182
This was really amusing to me because just after I typed my last post and was reading the others, my friend & coworker IM'd me asking if I wanted to go to Bass Pro Shops, which is our large hunting-outdoors megastore. Kind of ironic in a way...

There's really nothing to debate about it. It's just an acknowledgment that things are different I guess.
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By texasmr2
#161186
This was really amusing to me because just after I typed my last post and was reading the others, my friend & coworker IM'd me asking if I wanted to go to Bass Pro Shops, which is our large hunting-outdoors megastore. Kind of ironic in a way...

There's really nothing to debate about it. It's just an acknowledgment that things are different I guess.

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By vaptin
#161188
isn;t the acknowledgement meant that different things are different what causes debate to arise in the first place? I suppose a complete acceptance might remove the debate.

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