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[Denthúl]

Did Martin sneak into the PARC femme during the night and break things on his drivers car? - mean its not like they want that 3rd in the constructors.

Funnily enough, I was in Woking pre-Monza and thought I saw someone looking like Whitmarsh in the shops buying dark clothes. I thought nothing of it at the time, but now you mention it he was also carrying a value tool-kit from Halfords...

Dam! Sorry tony it looks like your right, perhaps he's been doing this since 2008?!

So Hekki is the true 2008 WDC not Lewis!

You should of took a picture, we'll need to get more information and show this to Max Mosley.

I'd include a covering letter when sending a picture of a person in dark cloths tho just in case he gets the wrong idea...

Yeah, man. The simulator results showed that over a race distance Kovalainen would have lapped Hamilton at least three times every race. Obviously, that would be quite embarrassing for Ron's protégé, so they had to find ways of knocking his pace back. The guy is just too good for F1. He'd have shown up Hakkinen, Schumi and Alonso, too if he'd been around back then. Not on at all.

[irons_4_ever]

Am i the only one getting fed up with drivers saying the tracks are not safe as they dont have big enough run of areas, what a load of tosh ffs. Im also fed up with watching drivers that are noit good enough race its dangerous forget how much run of area there is and train some of these drivers how to drive correctly

there no testing allowed so you cant expect any improvements at all.

i know but you hear the drivers moan because cars are crashing and red flags are coming out, but they blame the track and not the inept drivers.

I know some drivers make mistakes from time to time but there a select few that are new that constantly make mistakes.

Bara is the biggest moaner out of the lot, really did get on my nervs hearing them moan this morning.

[Gaz]

Did Martin sneak into the PARC femme during the night and break things on his drivers car? - mean its not like they want that 3rd in the constructors.

Funnily enough, I was in Woking pre-Monza and thought I saw someone looking like Whitmarsh in the shops buying dark clothes. I thought nothing of it at the time, but now you mention it he was also carrying a value tool-kit from Halfords...

Dam! Sorry tony it looks like your right, perhaps he's been doing this since 2008?!

So Hekki is the true 2008 WDC not Lewis!

You should of took a picture, we'll need to get more information and show this to Max Mosley.

I'd include a covering letter when sending a picture of a person in dark cloths tho just in case he gets the wrong idea...

Yeah, man. The simulator results showed that over a race distance Kovalainen would have lapped Hamilton at least three times every race. Obviously, that would be quite embarrassing for Ron's protégé, so they had to find ways of knocking his pace back. The guy is just too good for F1. He'd have shown up Hakkinen, Schumi and Alonso, too if he'd been around back then. Not on at all.

I've contacted Detective Inspector Blundell about this.

He said



"i done thought this a while dat Mr Kovalainen 'ad done better is wot driving in the 2008 Formula 1 Season.

I would of done gone to Max sooner if i 'ad evidence".

I feel this conspiracy may have gone as far back as the GP2 season of 2005 and i expect Flav was involved somehow.

[Tony_sa]

OMG !!! Flavio ?? Do you think they may ban him for another lifetime if it is found to be so ???

[EwanM]

So you guys are worried about next year because it's going to be Ferrari vs McLaren? Well recent years have been fantastic but this year is just awful. Button is going to win the title by cruising the second half of the season.

I think it's been a great season because for a change the same two teams haven't dominated.

My problem with this season is that one team did dominate at the beginning and that's what's determined the entire championship.

I suppose that's how championships can usually pan out. I think Red Bull should take a share of the blame. They have blown most of their chances all year. At the start of the season, Brawn didn't do that much wrong so they deserved their margin.

Has Rosberg's incident been sorted yet?

ya .. no penalty

Thank god.


Why hasn't Trulli been given a bit more praise today? He was brilliant for once. He dropped off the wagons and went for it.

I'm not surprised that today's race was processional. Enjoyable enough interms of the strategies, but it is really pathetic when the safety car is seen as an "exciting moment".

[SingaporeSling]

Why hasn't Trulli been given a bit more praise today? He was brilliant for once. He dropped off the wagons and went for it.

I'm not surprised that today's race was processional. Enjoyable enough interms of the strategies, but it is really pathetic when the safety car is seen as an "exciting moment".

Trulli was fine, did a good race strategy, but no real racing. Same thing for all of them actually, with the exception of Kovalainen defending his position, which funnily enough led Mac to give a statement that they might keep the current finn to support Lewis. Kimi for example didn't even try to take Heidfeld, just a few fast laps to get close enough that he could overtake with luck at pitstops.

BTW why did they let Grosjean to hangaround there during the safetycar time mixing up the restart of the race. Don't they usually let those guys to goahead and join at the end of the pack.

[Tony_sa]

Why hasn't Trulli been given a bit more praise today? He was brilliant for once. He dropped off the wagons and went for it.

I'm not surprised that today's race was processional. Enjoyable enough interms of the strategies, but it is really pathetic when the safety car is seen as an "exciting moment".

Trulli was fine, did a good race strategy, but no real racing. Same thing for all of them actually, with the exception of Kovalainen defending his position, which funnily enough led Mac to give a statement that they might keep the current finn to support Lewis. Kimi for example didn't even try to take Heidfeld, just a few fast laps to get close enough that he could overtake with luck at pitstops.

BTW why did they let Grosjean to hangaround there during the safetycar time mixing up the restart of the race. Don't they usually let those guys to goahead and join at the end of the pack.

so you saying heiki just happy to be employed and have no real ambition other than to support lewis ?? - whats wrong with that statement - maybe i should ask whats right with that statement.

[Amanda]

Trulli was fine, did a good race strategy, but no real racing. Same thing for all of them actually, with the exception of Kovalainen defending his position, which funnily enough led Mac to give a statement that they might keep the current finn to support Lewis. Kimi for example didn't even try to take Heidfeld, just a few fast laps to get close enough that he could overtake with luck at pitstops.

BTW why did they let Grosjean to hangaround there during the safetycar time mixing up the restart of the race. Don't they usually let those guys to goahead and join at the end of the pack.

I asked the same thing in chat. They didn't let the drivers unlap themselves which I thought was very odd.

[JamesD89]

I don't know what the safety car rulings are, but I remember that sort of thing happening in the past. By similar reasoning though, wouldn't that entitle Webber to keep driving round, unlapping himself all of 3 times?

[Tony_sa]

I don't know what the safety car rulings are, but I remember that sort of thing happening in the past. By similar reasoning though, wouldn't that entitle Webber to keep driving round, unlapping himself all of 3 times?

hehe .. no ofcoz not he will be considered unlapped if he ends up at the back of the pack - if he then overtake grosjean after the SC went in he wasnt assumed last anymore. why they did not allow him to unlap himself i guess it becos only 5 laps left maybe. .. who knows .. its F1.

[SingaporeSling]

Why hasn't Trulli been given a bit more praise today? He was brilliant for once. He dropped off the wagons and went for it.

I'm not surprised that today's race was processional. Enjoyable enough interms of the strategies, but it is really pathetic when the safety car is seen as an "exciting moment".

Trulli was fine, did a good race strategy, but no real racing. Same thing for all of them actually, with the exception of Kovalainen defending his position, which funnily enough led Mac to give a statement that they might keep the current finn to support Lewis. Kimi for example didn't even try to take Heidfeld, just a few fast laps to get close enough that he could overtake with luck at pitstops.

BTW why did they let Grosjean to hangaround there during the safetycar time mixing up the restart of the race. Don't they usually let those guys to goahead and join at the end of the pack.

so you saying heiki just happy to be employed and have no real ambition other than to support lewis ?? - whats wrong with that statement - maybe i should ask whats right with that statement.

Nope that's not what I was trying to say. Simply that Heikki was the only one showing some racing today because he didn't have anything to loose. Well basically he has to show something today and in the last races, that he's not just a nice guy. Whether he actually wishes to stay at Maclaren or would prefer to get a seat in another team as an equal driver. Supporting seats are pretty much filled up already with Massa, and well Grosjean if he stays at Renault. But anyway it was after that mac gave the statement that they might keep him and not waiting for Kimi.

[Zack]

Why hasn't Trulli been given a bit more praise today? He was brilliant for once. He dropped off the wagons and went for it.

I'm not surprised that today's race was processional. Enjoyable enough interms of the strategies, but it is really pathetic when the safety car is seen as an "exciting moment".

Trulli was fine, did a good race strategy, but no real racing. Same thing for all of them actually, with the exception of Kovalainen defending his position, which funnily enough led Mac to give a statement that they might keep the current finn to support Lewis. Kimi for example didn't even try to take Heidfeld, just a few fast laps to get close enough that he could overtake with luck at pitstops.

BTW why did they let Grosjean to hangaround there during the safetycar time mixing up the restart of the race. Don't they usually let those guys to goahead and join at the end of the pack.

so you saying heiki just happy to be employed and have no real ambition other than to support lewis ?? - whats wrong with that statement - maybe i should ask whats right with that statement.

Nope that's not what I was trying to say. Simply that Heikki was the only one showing some racing today because he didn't have anything to loose. Well basically he has to show something today and in the last races, that he's not just a nice guy. Whether he actually wishes to stay at Maclaren or would prefer to get a seat in another team as an equal driver. Supporting seats are pretty much filled up already with Massa, and well Grosjean if he stays at Renault. But anyway it was after that mac gave the statement that they might keep him and not waiting for Kimi.

If you think Massa is supporting driver since 2006

Well, Heikki has everything to lose; Next year he won't have winnable car i.e. Toyota or Renault IMO

[EwanM]

I tell you today's race wasn't too bad. I've seen alot worse this season. Having rewatched parts of the race it was full of a good few battles and the pit strategies were interesting.

I agree with Brundle with the ban on refuelling. I think with a lack of general overtaking, fuel strategies have really made grand prix down the years. WIth that gone we could easily have dull procession.

Yes tyre management has to be key, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the on track action remain the same.

[Frosty]

This may sound funny but if anyone was to blame for Rosberg going to fast it's McLaren for designing a ECU that when the car is on low fuel it displays that warning rather than the lap time delta

[Gaz]

This may sound funny but if anyone was to blame for Rosberg going to fast it's McLaren for designing a ECU that when the car is on low fuel it displays that warning rather than the lap time delta

Thats all within the steering wheel not the ECU.