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Formula One related discussion.
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By JamesD89
#160007
KERS in all cars would open up another tactical option for the drivers. If, e.g., you boost yourself out in defense or in response of a fake overtaking attack, eventually the car behind may be able to catch you with your KERS exhausted...


If a car's quick enough to stick to the car infront without using all its KERS, wouldn't it be quick enough to pass if both cars didn't have KERS in the first place?


That's not the point. It's about tactics/strategy that KERS adds to racing. If you're a master at KERS usage, you might get an advantage. It's even conceivable that somebody pressured pushes the KERS button in a less than desirable place and goes off - stranger things have happened.


Yeah that could be true, I'm all for driving skill having a larger impact. But how much skill is involved in knowing when to press the KERS button? There's no physical skill involved.

I'd rather the cars be more difficult to handle. I don't know if any driver aids are used nowadays, if not I'm sure there must be ways. Maybe people here have some ideas.

Fighter jet pilots are very skilled at pressing buttons and using all kinds of aids (if not, they get sacked) - that's part of their mental fitness. They are also very physically fit as you'd imagine. There's no contradiction there.


Fighter jets don't race, they don't go round corners, they don't overtake. It's a different skill used to achieve a completely different goal.

I didn't say that they race, but they actually do sometimes during dog fighting (or at least used to) and the winner's price was his life!
I was using that example to point out that pressing buttons to achieve one's goals and physical and mental fitness can go together (and in both examples have to).


I would say F1 is already a big enough test of fitness. Not so for skill.
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By ivey
#160011
I'm not in the mood to read all 4 pages. So next year is KERS going to exist or not? Will it be banned or what?
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By myownalias
#160016
I'm not in the mood to read all 4 pages. So next year is KERS going to exist or not? Will it be banned or what?

It won't be officially banned by the FIA; that's almost certain, if it doesn't feature it'll be a gentleman's agreement within FOTA! Although I can see Williams using it regardless if they are nowhere next season and can get an advantage by using their flywheel KERS system. It's one of those "only time will tell" situations!
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By Frosty
#160043
I'm not in the mood to read all 4 pages. So next year is KERS going to exist or not? Will it be banned or what?

It won't be officially banned by the FIA; that's almost certain, if it doesn't feature it'll be a gentleman's agreement within FOTA! Although I can see Williams using it regardless if they are nowhere next season and can get an advantage by using their flywheel KERS system. It's one of those "only time will tell" situations!

It doesn't work like that if a team is to competitively use KERS next year they need to design the car for it now to gain an advantage. All the teams within FOTA have agreed to not use it so there should be no KERS next year. But legally it would be allowed.
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By ivey
#160051
Sucks for McLaren and Ferrari who put a lot of money into it and now they cut it out..
By autogyro
#160187
FOTA is forcing teams to stop using Kers because the manufacturer teams in Fota are making money from the technology in the road vehicle market place and they wish to prevent others from developing superior systems.
It will return and soon.
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By Frosty
#160188
FOTA is forcing teams to stop using Kers because the manufacturer teams in Fota are making money from the technology in the road vehicle market place and they wish to prevent others from developing superior systems.
It will return and soon.

:bs:
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By McLaren Fan
#160889
FOTA is forcing teams to stop using Kers because the manufacturer teams in Fota are making money from the technology in the road vehicle market place and they wish to prevent others from developing superior systems.
It will return and soon.

You should write for The Guardian with conspiracy theories like that.
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By myownalias
#160904
I'm not in the mood to read all 4 pages. So next year is KERS going to exist or not? Will it be banned or what?

It won't be officially banned by the FIA; that's almost certain, if it doesn't feature it'll be a gentleman's agreement within FOTA! Although I can see Williams using it regardless if they are nowhere next season and can get an advantage by using their flywheel KERS system. It's one of those "only time will tell" situations!

It doesn't work like that if a team is to competitively use KERS next year they need to design the car for it now to gain an advantage. All the teams within FOTA have agreed to not use it so there should be no KERS next year. But legally it would be allowed.

I would bet money on teams developing the chassis/engine to be able to optionally run KERS next season, so they can bolt it in without any noticeable loss of performance or car balance. Teams will want to cover all bases as the technology won't be banned by the FIA, don't be surprised to see KERS being used if a team is lagging behind!
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