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[stonemonkey]

I dont get why Alonso get punished as well... i think the rest deserved theirs. capt invincible escaped his -

I was under the impression that Hamilton recorded his lap before the yellow flags.

yes Amanda - he did... hence his lucky escape .

capt invincible escaped his - ....... his what?

[Tony_sa]

I dont get why Alonso get punished as well... i think the rest deserved theirs. capt invincible escaped his -

I was under the impression that Hamilton recorded his lap before the yellow flags.

yes Amanda - he did... hence his lucky escape .

To be fair Tony how do you know Hamilton wouldn't of slowed down?

Hes the most paranoid driver out there after all the penalty's he got in 08.

As we saw in Australia.

you probably right longbow - i guess he would have slowed as well but here a shot in the dark - do you think he would have recieved a penalty anyway ??

[Gaz]

I dont get why Alonso get punished as well... i think the rest deserved theirs. capt invincible escaped his -

I was under the impression that Hamilton recorded his lap before the yellow flags.

yes Amanda - he did... hence his lucky escape .

To be fair Tony how do you know Hamilton wouldn't of slowed down?

Hes the most paranoid driver out there after all the penalty's he got in 08.

As we saw in Australia.

you probably right longbow - i guess he would have slowed as well but here a shot in the dark - do you think he would have recieved a penalty anyway ??

Pointless speculating about that really mate.

[JamesD89]

Another unfair and messed up grid, this qualifying format is a bit of a wind up.

Hamilton made it through though and KERS allowing that could be as good as pole. Roll on 5am.

[Amanda]

I dont get why Alonso get punished as well... i think the rest deserved theirs. capt invincible escaped his -

I was under the impression that Hamilton recorded his lap before the yellow flags.

he Amanda - he did... hence his lucky escape .

Not that lucky really. Most teams had the sense to get their drivers out as soon as possible. Given that we'd already had quite a few crashes, it was silly to wait in the pits and risk not getting a lap in (as Barrichello and Button did).

I agree about Alonso though, I'd love to see his sector times for that lap.

Hmm. I'm beginning to wonder if they're going off fastest overall time, because Alonso did set his fastest lap of the session there. However, that is kind of by default, since previous laps were hindered by the red flag.

Both Brawn drivers only set one lap too so by default it was their fastest. But Ross Barwn has admitted that they didn't attempt to slow down so their penalties are fair. Alonso qualified 12th, out of 13 drivers to post a time, but it was still a fairly decent time at 1:31.638, only 2 tenths off his Q1 time of 1:31.401. I guess he didn't slow down that much.

[Gaz]

Pos Driver Team
1. Vettel Red Bull-Renault
2. Trulli Toyota
3. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
4. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber
5. Raikkonen Ferrari
6. Rosberg Williams-Toyota
7. Kubica BMW-Sauber
8. Sutil Force India-Mercedes *
9. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes *
10. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari
11. Button Brawn-Mercedes *
12. Fisichella Ferrari
13. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes **
14. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari *
15. Nakajima Williams-Toyota
16. Grosjean Renault
17. Alonso Renault *
18. Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes **
19. Glock Toyota ***
20. Webber Red Bull-Renault ***

* Five-place grid penalty
** Five-place grid penalty for changing gearbox
*** Will use new chassis so will start from the pitlane

Is this the final grid then? - just that Lee Mckenzie is saying this

LeeMcK The official grid will be announced tomorrow morning 10am by the FIA. Kov changing gear box, Webber engine, Glock unlikely to race

Weights
01. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 658.5
02. Trulli Toyota 655.5
03. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 656.0

04. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 650.0
05. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 660.5
06. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber 660.0
07. Button Brawn-Mercedes 658.5
08. Raikkonen Ferrari 661.0
09. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 675.0
10. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 665.4*
11. Rosberg Williams-Toyota 684.5*
12. Alonso Renault 689.5*
13. Kubica BMW-Sauber 686.0*
14. Glock Toyota -
15. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 682.5*
16. Fisichella Ferrari 661.5*
17. Nakajima Williams-Toyota 695.7*
18. Grosjean Renault 691.8*
19. Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 682.5*
20. Webber Red Bull-Renault -

* declared weight

[Denthúl]

Is this the final grid then? - just that Lee Mckenzie is saying this

LeeMcK The official grid will be announced tomorrow morning 10am by the FIA. Kov changing gear box, Webber engine, Glock unlikely to race[/quote

That's normal. It's effectively a provisional grid until the formation lap begins, really. Autosport have likely just worked it out from the penalties issued already.

[Gaz]

Is this the final grid then? - just that Lee Mckenzie is saying this

LeeMcK The official grid will be announced tomorrow morning 10am by the FIA. Kov changing gear box, Webber engine, Glock unlikely to race[/quote

That's normal. It's effectively a provisional grid until the formation lap begins, really. Autosport have likely just worked it out from the penalties issued already.

fair enough

Looking good for a Vettle win tomorrow then, perhaps Lewis can KERS him tho and stay ahead.

[Tony_sa]

Is this the final grid then? - just that Lee Mckenzie is saying this

LeeMcK The official grid will be announced tomorrow morning 10am by the FIA. Kov changing gear box, Webber engine, Glock unlikely to race[/quote

That's normal. It's effectively a provisional grid until the formation lap begins, really. Autosport have likely just worked it out from the penalties issued already.

fair enough

Looking good for a Vettle win tomorrow then, perhaps Lewis can KERS him tho and stay ahead.

Thats the reason why I am glad kers is going - unfair advantage by the kers cars. Vettel needs this win !!

[supeindesu]

I can't understand why Alonso and Buemi where punished that way

[JamesD89]

Nakajima's tanked up isn't he? Is it possible to 1 stop this race?

[bud]

Is this the final grid then? - just that Lee Mckenzie is saying this

LeeMcK The official grid will be announced tomorrow morning 10am by the FIA. Kov changing gear box, Webber engine, Glock unlikely to race[/quote

That's normal. It's effectively a provisional grid until the formation lap begins, really. Autosport have likely just worked it out from the penalties issued already.

fair enough

Looking good for a Vettle win tomorrow then, perhaps Lewis can KERS him tho and stay ahead.

Thats the reason why I am glad kers is going - unfair advantage by the kers cars. Vettel needs this win !!

Of course its fair, it's not the KERS teams fault for the other teams CHOOSING not to use the technology!

[Denthúl]

Thats the reason why I am glad kers is going - unfair advantage by the kers cars. Vettel needs this win !!

KERS isn't an unfair advantage.

I can't understand why Alonso and Buemi where punished that way

Buemi was penalised for holding up cars and for driving a damaged car that put others at risk.

Nakajima's tanked up isn't he? Is it possible to 1 stop this race?

If you can make the tyres last.

[Tony_sa]

Thats the reason why I am glad kers is going - unfair advantage by the kers cars. Vettel needs this win !!

KERS isn't an unfair advantage.


How you figure ??

[Amanda]

Thats the reason why I am glad kers is going - unfair advantage by the kers cars. Vettel needs this win !!

KERS isn't an unfair advantage.


How you figure ??

Because everyone has the choice of whether to use it or not. I don't like KERS, but it's not unfair.