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[bud]

yes but unlike other areas of the car, such as the Engine Freeze. KERS will be allowed to have free technical range. so in theory the cost will never end in developing it further and further.

[Tony_sa]

I agree with McLaren Fan; it would be silly to ban it now that the technology has come to fruition as it has proven to be a race winner. The decision to ban KERS was taken when it appeared to be a redundant technology as all the KERS enabled teams were near the back of the grid because of car balance issues. I can't believe that Williams have agreed to abandon the system after spending more than a year developing the technology. Personally I want to see the flywheel KERS system in action!

I often wonder how the car will react when it changes direction with a heavy disc spining at high revs. also whether it would need to be mounted horizontal or vertical since a disc spinning at speed exerts a fairly heavy lateral force to whatever its attached to. I really dont see it woking as well as they might expect.
electrical kers makes sense... any takers?

[emma]

I agree with McLaren Fan; it would be silly to ban it now that the technology has come to fruition as it has proven to be a race winner.

But KERS has only helped gain a win simply because some of the other cars are KERS-less. Give all the cars KERS and there's an even playing field again - so what's the point? That's hw I see it, anyway.

[Tony_sa]

I agree with McLaren Fan; it would be silly to ban it now that the technology has come to fruition as it has proven to be a race winner.

But KERS has only helped gain a win simply because some of the other cars are KERS-less. Give all the cars KERS and there's an even playing field again - so what's the point? That's hw I see it, anyway.

you quite correct Emma. its just that some people is happy that their teams win races with a unfair advantage over teams that dont have kers. Hopefully this issue is closed since everybody agreed to not use it next year. sortof like leveling the playing field.

[myownalias]

I agree with McLaren Fan; it would be silly to ban it now that the technology has come to fruition as it has proven to be a race winner.

But KERS has only helped gain a win simply because some of the other cars are KERS-less. Give all the cars KERS and there's an even playing field again - so what's the point? That's hw I see it, anyway.

you quite correct Emma. its just that some people is happy that their teams win races with a unfair advantage over teams that dont have kers. Hopefully this issue is closed since everybody agreed to not use it next year. sortof like leveling the playing field.

Actually I would like all teams to run KERS then all will be equal... I have no preference for any team. The idea of having a KERS boost button that the driver can deploy at any time and counter KERS boosting would make racing much more fun and less processional!

Also there will never be a level playing field in F1! for a truly level playing field we'll need identical cars... one team will always have a little more power or better aero package which may swap around a little during the season as the major teams play catch up, it is never level regardless of KERS!

[myownalias]

yes but unlike other areas of the car, such as the Engine Freeze. KERS will be allowed to have free technical range. so in theory the cost will never end in developing it further and further.

But if the system is limited to 80bhp which is already generated; what gains could be made? with the exception of lighter units!

[bud]

yes but unlike other areas of the car, such as the Engine Freeze. KERS will be allowed to have free technical range. so in theory the cost will never end in developing it further and further.

But if the system is limited to 80bhp which is already generated; what gains could be made? with the exception of lighter units!

You hit the nail on the head with weight!

[emma]

I agree with McLaren Fan; it would be silly to ban it now that the technology has come to fruition as it has proven to be a race winner.

But KERS has only helped gain a win simply because some of the other cars are KERS-less. Give all the cars KERS and there's an even playing field again - so what's the point? That's hw I see it, anyway.

you quite correct Emma. its just that some people is happy that their teams win races with a unfair advantage over teams that dont have kers. Hopefully this issue is closed since everybody agreed to not use it next year. sortof like leveling the playing field.

Actually I would like all teams to run KERS then all will be equal... I have no preference for any team. The idea of having a KERS boost button that the driver can deploy at any time and counter KERS boosting would make racing much more fun and less processional!

Also there will never be a level playing field in F1! for a truly level playing field we'll need identical cars... one team will always have a little more power or better aero package which may swap around a little during the season as the major teams play catch up, it is never level regardless of KERS!

I just meant than in terms of the advantage KERS brings, there will be a level playing field.
I'm also not convinced that KERS would make racing more fun - all the teams will be looking out for where KERS is most advantageous to use, and eventually all the drivers will be boosting at the same points in the track - and when one uses his to overtake, the guy in front will just use his to defend, and the effect will be cancelled out.

[vaptin]

Don't think the effect will be cancelled, currently we have a slow driver in front able to maintain position cos of kers (kimi), if all the kers have kers the advantage from kers will then be lost, meaning the faster cars will still be able to maintain their advantage in straight line speed or whatever without kers negating it since they have kers to. Lets not forget some teams will have better kers than others. Of course this brings us round to simply scrapping kers since the effect is the same, but I like the extra dimension kers adds in.

[myownalias]

yes but unlike other areas of the car, such as the Engine Freeze. KERS will be allowed to have free technical range. so in theory the cost will never end in developing it further and further.

But if the system is limited to 80bhp which is already generated; what gains could be made? with the exception of lighter units!

You hit the nail on the head with weight!

That problem could also be solved; tighten up the regulation on the KERS units so they have to weigh a standard weight! Not that I am advocating that restriction, F1 cars have to be a certain weight; width and length, I'm for letting teams do whatever within those dimensions.

I'm more in favour of a limited number of boosts per race instead of X amount of seconds per lap. Then drivers will have to think about their usage more instead of using it to stay ahead every lap; they would have to be more sensible with their boosts meaning different boost strategies.

I think KERS is a good idea but it would have been better to have a 80bhp turbo boost allowed for maybe 15 times per race, cheaper and more effective!

[EwanM]

EJ will be happy.

[stonemonkey]

I agree with McLaren Fan; it would be silly to ban it now that the technology has come to fruition as it has proven to be a race winner. The decision to ban KERS was taken when it appeared to be a redundant technology as all the KERS enabled teams were near the back of the grid because of car balance issues. I can't believe that Williams have agreed to abandon the system after spending more than a year developing the technology. Personally I want to see the flywheel KERS system in action!

I often wonder how the car will react when it changes direction with a heavy disc spining at high revs. also whether it would need to be mounted horizontal or vertical since a disc spinning at speed exerts a fairly heavy lateral force to whatever its attached to. I really dont see it woking as well as they might expect.
electrical kers makes sense... any takers?

If it's rotating around the vertical axis it won't be affected by change of direction, maybe slightly by pitch and roll but I wouldn't think there'd be much effect from that.

[darwin dali]

KERS in all cars would open up another tactical option for the drivers. If, e.g., you boost yourself out in defense or in response of a fake overtaking attack, eventually the car behind may be able to catch you with your KERS exhausted...

[JamesD89]

KERS in all cars would open up another tactical option for the drivers. If, e.g., you boost yourself out in defense or in response of a fake overtaking attack, eventually the car behind may be able to catch you with your KERS exhausted...

If a car's quick enough to stick to the car infront without using all its KERS, wouldn't it be quick enough to pass if both cars didn't have KERS in the first place?

[EwanM]

Ditch the diffusers.