- 30 Sep 09, 15:12#158772
I reckon only the 2005 title was lost on reliability alone. he made mistakes in 2003 and Ferrari suffered form bad luck too

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gilles27 wrote:I he made mistakes in 2003 and Ferrari suffered form bad luck toowhat bad luck? they got the FIA to ban the other teams tyres in the dying stages of the championship when it looked like a Williams or a McLaren were going to win it
bud wrote:watch those engine failures reappearing when he upstages hammie -DOOOMKULTUS wrote:Nice.Will be interesting to see Schumi and Alonso working together [or pseudo-together]Engine failures cost him atleast 2 titles while at McLaren, Mercedes have gotten their act together since thoes days wouldnt you think?
I think Kimi overall won't be that pissed in the long run,after all Ferrari did provide him the opportunity to win his first and only Drivers Championship.Which in all his years at McLaren well we know what happened.
I hope its not a repeat if he decides to goes back.
Tony_sa wrote: watch those engine failures reappearing when he upstages hammie -that would be pretty ironic. haha
bud wrote:That would be the clearly illegal tires which the FIA permitted throughout the year in an effort to ensure a close championship and boost audiences?gilles27 wrote:I he made mistakes in 2003 and Ferrari suffered form bad luck toowhat bad luck? they got the FIA to ban the other teams tyres in the dying stages of the championship when it looked like a Williams or a McLaren were going to win it

gilles27 wrote:clearly illegal tyre that they had run the 3 previous seasons with not qualms from Ferrari or their partner Bridgestone until they started being beaten? youre talking about that tyre? cos i am!bud wrote:That would be the clearly illegal tires which the FIA permitted throughout the year in an effort to ensure a close championship and boost audiences?gilles27 wrote:I he made mistakes in 2003 and Ferrari suffered form bad luck toowhat bad luck? they got the FIA to ban the other teams tyres in the dying stages of the championship when it looked like a Williams or a McLaren were going to win it
bud wrote:the one that exceeded the maximum allowed tread block width? yes that's the onegilles27 wrote:clearly illegal tyre that they had run the 3 previous seasons with not qualms from Ferrari or their partner Bridgestone until they started being beaten? youre talking about that tyre? cos i am!bud wrote:That would be the clearly illegal tires which the FIA permitted throughout the year in an effort to ensure a close championship and boost audiences?gilles27 wrote:I he made mistakes in 2003 and Ferrari suffered form bad luck toowhat bad luck? they got the FIA to ban the other teams tyres in the dying stages of the championship when it looked like a Williams or a McLaren were going to win it

bud wrote:thats a chop isnt it?looks like a chop to me, looks like his head has been glued onto the pic lol
bud wrote:thats a chop isnt it?

gilles27 wrote:yeah the one that was ok for 3 seasons without a hint of complaint by the reds. yeah that one!bud wrote:the one that exceeded the maximum allowed tread block width? yes that's the onegilles27 wrote:clearly illegal tyre that they had run the 3 previous seasons with not qualms from Ferrari or their partner Bridgestone until they started being beaten? youre talking about that tyre? cos i am!bud wrote:That would be the clearly illegal tires which the FIA permitted throughout the year in an effort to ensure a close championship and boost audiences?gilles27 wrote:I he made mistakes in 2003 and Ferrari suffered form bad luck toowhat bad luck? they got the FIA to ban the other teams tyres in the dying stages of the championship when it looked like a Williams or a McLaren were going to win it
bud wrote:well it wasn't the same tire but also, there is the issue of Ferrari not having access to the tire to understand it and to get sufficient evidence to lodge a complaint with the FIA. the tire's tread expanded a few laps into the race as the tire reached the correct temperature so it was something which was very hard to make a case againstgilles27 wrote:yeah the one that was ok for 3 seasons without a hint of complaint by the reds. yeah that one!bud wrote:the one that exceeded the maximum allowed tread block width? yes that's the onegilles27 wrote:clearly illegal tyre that they had run the 3 previous seasons with not qualms from Ferrari or their partner Bridgestone until they started being beaten? youre talking about that tyre? cos i am!bud wrote:That would be the clearly illegal tires which the FIA permitted throughout the year in an effort to ensure a close championship and boost audiences?gilles27 wrote:I he made mistakes in 2003 and Ferrari suffered form bad luck toowhat bad luck? they got the FIA to ban the other teams tyres in the dying stages of the championship when it looked like a Williams or a McLaren were going to win it

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