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For all the claims of the Mercedes engine being the longest lasting, it appears that the Ferrari engine lasts longer.
whose to say they cant re use the older engines.
thats what i am saying Mercedes have not had to be so careful with their engines like Ferrari or Renault have and have used them freely. I havent heard of McLaren, Brawn or Force India being in engine shortages like BMW have.
thats what i am saying Mercedes have not had to be so careful with their engines like Ferrari or Renault have and have used them freely. I havent heard of McLaren, Brawn or Force India being in engine shortages like BMW have.
How have Ferrari been careful with their engines. If the Ferrari drivers, all of them, have more fresh engines left over, that means that they've been re-using engines more than the Mercedes teams have. How does this become Ferrari being more careful with the engines?
thats what i am saying Mercedes have not had to be so careful with their engines like Ferrari or Renault have and have used them freely. I havent heard of McLaren, Brawn or Force India being in engine shortages like BMW have.
How have Ferrari been careful with their engines. If the Ferrari drivers, all of them, have more fresh engines left over, that means that they've been re-using engines more than the Mercedes teams have. How does this become Ferrari being more careful with the engines?
Yeh but you don't know How much HP each engine looses after each race, and thats a key point too.
Ferrari might be able to use an engine 3 times or whatever but if its dropping HP after every race then its not as good as a Merc which seams to keep its HP better.
Been careful by not choosing to use a new engine when they could have. For all we know the 6 used cannot be used again.
Yeh but you don't know How much HP each engine looses after each race, and thats a key point too.
Ferrari might be able to use an engine 3 times or whatever but if its dropping HP after every race then its not as good as a Merc which seams to keep its HP better.
Yeh but you don't know How much HP each engine looses after each race, and thats a key point too.
Ferrari might be able to use an engine 3 times or whatever but if its dropping HP after every race then its not as good as a Merc which seams to keep its HP better.
If the Mercedes kept its HP better, then you'd expect them to hold onto more fresh engines. As having fresh engines is a buffer against unexpected failures. However people try and spin it, without further detailed evidence, all the Ferrari teams having two engines left while all the Mercedes teams having one engine left suggests that the Ferrari engine is long-lived, more so than the Merc. As they haven't had to use so many engines up to now.
And I'm not saying that the Ferrari engine is better, it seems to have quite a bit less HP than the Merc. Which given that there is supposed to be an engine freeze, is not necessarily something for Mercedes to be proud of. As it suggests that Mercedes have been more effective at subverting the regulations. Rather than out and out engineering prowess.
Yeh but you don't know How much HP each engine looses after each race, and thats a key point too.
Ferrari might be able to use an engine 3 times or whatever but if its dropping HP after every race then its not as good as a Merc which seams to keep its HP better.
If the Mercedes kept its HP better, then you'd expect them to hold onto more fresh engines. As having fresh engines is a buffer against unexpected failures. However people try and spin it, without further detailed evidence, all the Ferrari teams having two engines left while all the Mercedes teams having one engine left suggests that the Ferrari engine is long-lived, more so than the Merc. As they haven't had to use so many engines up to now.
And I'm not saying that the Ferrari engine is better, it seems to have quite a bit less HP than the Merc. Which given that there is supposed to be an engine freeze, is not necessarily something for Mercedes to be proud of. As it suggests that Mercedes have been more effective at subverting the regulations. Rather than out and out engineering prowess.
maybe it is all down to stratergy. some circuits take more out of the engine and some circuit are more reliant than power. maybe different engine builders have been more conservative than another. Plus the engines don't have to be used concurently. there is nothing to stop someone using there 8 engines in the first 8 races and then going back and revisiting them later in the season
maybe it is all down to stratergy. some circuits take more out of the engine and some circuit are more reliant than power. maybe different engine builders have been more conservative than another. Plus the engines don't have to be used concurently. there is nothing to stop someone using there 8 engines in the first 8 races and then going back and revisiting them later in the season
Maybe, but it depends on the maths. If there were ten races left, and the Mercedes teams had two new engines left, and the Ferrari engined teams three engines left, then it's possible that the Mercedes teams might be in a better position as their used engines might be less used than the Ferrari ones.
But with four races left, Mercedes teams having one fresh engine left, and the Ferrari teams having two fresh engines left, there is no possible combination of engine use by Mercedes which can match the average "engine freshness" that can be achieved by the Ferrari engined teams. As detailed above.
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