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[mudd]

Just thought id bring this one up as ive been keen to talk about it for a while.

How poor is Hondas performance this year? unbelievable. Even if you were a Jenson or a Rubens fan, you'd have trouble keeping the motivation for the whole thing. I guess I find it interesting that teams like honda and toyota can pour so much money into F1 and have a team like super aguri outperform them (outperform honda i.e). crazy stuff.

Im sure somepeople(s) should have their bottom kicked ...

[McLaren Fan]

I don't know about Honda, however, I know a little about Toyota. The problem with Toyota, apparently, is the management. They have some good staff, but the men in grey suits won't let those who know best keep at it and do their own thing. Look at Mike Gascoyne being given the boot.

[7UpJordan]

I don't know about Honda, however, I know a little about Toyota. The problem with Toyota, apparently, is the management. They have some good staff, but the men in grey suits won't let those who know best keep at it and do their own thing. Look at Mike Gascoyne being given the boot.

The problem with Toyota is that they think their huge budget will bring results. Also they don't seem to be ever the bit concerned that Williams have more than twice the amount of points they have and Williams are using THEIR engines.

Also does anyone get that feeling that every Toyota car launched at the start of the season is just a rehash of the 2002 car? Sure looks like it and also they might want to change their boring livery. When Toyota finally win a race, it won't be their works team it'll be their engine in the back of a Williams and it'll no doubt be Rosberg.

[Lewis Hamilton - COME ON!]

yeah, look @ a few years back, honda where fighting Ferrari for each race win, IMO honda have gotten worse, since that season, i think it was 2004