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By Bruno_Brazil
#155419
The entity concluded that Alonso had no involvement in the scandal and his presence at the judgment of the World Council is not required.

According to The Times, the Spanish driver was sought by the week during the Monza Grand Prix and said he had no knowledge about Nelsinho Piquet's deliberate crash

So FIA decided to let Alonso out of the judgment of the World Motor Sports who will decide on Monday the fate of those involved in the case.



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My opinion:
Well,it is quite obvious that Alonso knew everything, but sense is not evidence. so....
and Alonso in F1 = more people($$) enjoying F1.

But still, for me, whether he had known anything about what might have been going on or not, he's blameless.
By Amanda
#155425
I don't think Alonso conspired with Symons, Briatore and Piquet, his reactions after the race seemed genuine enough to me. Maybe I'm naive but if there's absolutely no evidence then I'm not going to accuse the man. It seems unfair to taint his reputation just because someone (i.e. Piquet Snr.) has a hunch that he was involved.
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I don't think Alonso conspired with Symons, Briatore and Piquet, his reactions after the race seemed genuine enough to me. Maybe I'm naive but if there's absolutely no evidence then I'm not going to accuse the man. It seems unfair to taint his reputation just because someone (i.e. Piquet Snr.) has a hunch that he was involved.


I don't agree. When Alonso was talking to Briatore after the race, he was saying "it was the safety car" with a grin. It could have been a "nudge nudge wink wink I know what you did" type smile. I'm not claiming to know what Alonso was thinking, but find it plausible that he at least knew what was going on, and perhaps did so from before the race.

But the FIA's announcement reads to me like We have concluded that it's in our best interests to assume that Alonso is entirely innocent, and hence we do so.

On the other hand, if there's no actual evidence against Alonso, then it might make the FIA look stupid to accuse him, then be completely unable to build any sort of a case. Not that they actually need to as I certainly believe that the FIA "court" comes up with whatever judgement Mosley wants, but they would have a public relations problem if they censured Alonso without evidence.
By Amanda
#155430
I don't think Alonso conspired with Symons, Briatore and Piquet, his reactions after the race seemed genuine enough to me. Maybe I'm naive but if there's absolutely no evidence then I'm not going to accuse the man. It seems unfair to taint his reputation just because someone (i.e. Piquet Snr.) has a hunch that he was involved.


I don't agree. When Alonso was talking to Briatore after the race, he was saying "it was the safety car" with a grin. It could have been a "nudge nudge wink wink I know what you did" type smile. I'm not claiming to know what Alonso was thinking, but find it plausible that he at least knew what was going on, and perhaps did so from before the race.

But the FIA's announcement reads to me like We have concluded that it's in our best interests to assume that Alonso is entirely innocent, and hence we do so.

On the other hand, if there's no actual evidence against Alonso, then it might make the FIA look stupid to accuse him, then be completely unable to build any sort of a case. Not that they actually need to as I certainly believe that the FIA "court" comes up with whatever judgement Mosley wants, but they would have a public relations problem if they censured Alonso without evidence.



Plausible but unprovable and fairly speculative. He was smiling after a race that he's just won and he stated a fact about the safety car helping him to win, I don't see anything wrong with either of those actions, they're perfectly natural.
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Plausible but unprovable and fairly speculative. He was smiling after a race that he's just won and he stated a fact about the safety car helping him to win, I don't see anything wrong with either of those actions, they're perfectly natural.


Well, yes, unprovable and fairly speculative. But we're not in a court of law here where evidence has to reach a certain level. We're talking about what we personally believe to be most likely given the limited evidence available to us.
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By Frosty
#155433
If they think he is completely innocent why has he been called before the World motorsport council.
#155434
If they think he is completely innocent why has he been called before the World motorsport council.


Even if I'm not convinced that Alonso is entirely unknowing of what went on, it's still reasonable to call him in to question him further on general background matters. As either some information may come out which helps understand the actions/motives of others. And by questioning him further they can firm up (or disprove) their belief that Alonso is innocent.
By Amanda
#155436
Plausible but unprovable and fairly speculative. He was smiling after a race that he's just won and he stated a fact about the safety car helping him to win, I don't see anything wrong with either of those actions, they're perfectly natural.


Well, yes, unprovable and fairly speculative. But we're not in a court of law here where evidence has to reach a certain level. We're talking about what we personally believe to be most likely given the limited evidence available to us.



And that's all I was doing, stating an opinion.

I can't say categorically that Alonso is innocent but given that there is absolutely no evidence against him, other than personal judgements of what he should have known and individual interpretations of his body language, I think it's unfair to accuse him. Stating these views on a F1 forum I can live with but people like Nelson Piquet Snr., who flout them to the press, annoy me. Mud sticks.
By Amanda
#155441
I would of thought if Alonso had any idea about this he would of said something by now.



And implicate himself? I'd probably keep my mouth shut if I'd been hiding it. Although, if Alonso does have some information, surely he would have been offered immunity given that Symons and Piquet were :confused:
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By McLaren
#155442
I would of thought if Alonso had any idea about this he would of said something by now.



And implicate himself? I'd probably keep my mouth shut if I'd been hiding it. Although, if Alonso does have some information, surely he would have been offered immunity given that Symons and Piquet were :confused:


Exactly he would of been immune,he isn't usually shy in coming forward
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By JamesD89
#155444
I don't agree. When Alonso was talking to Briatore after the race, he was saying "it was the safety car" with a grin.


Exactly. If he knew what had happened would he, with a tv camera pointing at him, say within earshot anything about the safety car? Compare that to Briatore's succinct and muffled response, or Piquet's look of embarassment as the team shake hands on the pit wall.
#155445
Exactly. If he knew what had happened would he, with a tv camera pointing at him, say within earshot anything about the safety car? Compare that to Briatore's succinct and muffled response, or Piquet's look of embarassment as the team shake hands on the pit wall.


Given that it's claimed (e.g. Irvine) that many things like this have happened in the past, then Alonso could easily have been fairly confident about talking about it, even in public. It's very easy to find lots of examples where people talked confidently about things in public where it later turned out that they shouldn't have.
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